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[♪♪] CONNECTING MARYLANDERS TO THEIR GOVERNMENT, THIS IS "STATE CIRCLE".

>> Jeff: WELCOME TO "STATE CIRCLE."

COMING UP TONIGHT TAKING CHARGE OF YOUR OWN HEALTH DESPITE THE COMPLEXITIES.

MODERN HEALTHCARE.

AND WE WILL MEET ANOTHER OF THE CANDIDATES FOR THE GOVERNOR.

BUT FIRST THE STATE OF MARYLAND IS INVESTING ABOUT HALF A BILLION TO BOOST THE HORSERACING INDUSTRY.

MOST OF THAT IS BEING SPENT AT PIMLICO HOME OF THE PREAKNESS FOR 150 YEARS.

NOW THE OWNERS OF THE KENTUCKY DERBY AND BELL MONTH STAKES APPEAR TO BE TRYING TO FREEZE OUT MARYLAND WITH A SERIES OF RACES THAT OMITS THE PREAKNESS.

WE CAUGHT UP WITH STEVE BYK HOST OF ACTIVE RACES ON SIRIUS XM.

>> THE TRIPLE CROWN IS IN FLUX THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE ARE AS OF THE SUMMER OF 2026.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN 2027 IT APPEARS THAT THE KENTUCKY DERBY WILL BE RUN THE FIRST SATURDAY OF MAY AS IT ALWAYS IS.

PRE-K S-PBS GOING TO BE RUN ON THE GROUNDS OF PIMLICO AS IT ISABILITY.

IT WILL BE RUN ON A SUNDAY AND THE NEXT WEEK BELMONT WILL BE RUN IN THE NORMAL PLACE ON THE CALENDAR.

BEYOND THAT, THERE'S NO TELLING WHERE WE END UP LONG-TERM.

AND I THINK THAT AS SOMEONE THAT IS ALWAYS HOPEFUL ABOUT RACING AND THINKS MORE HIGHLY OF PEOPLE IN MANAGEMENT IN RACING THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE DO, I THINK WE'LL FIND A BALANCE AND I THINK WE'LL FIND A WAY TO REESTABLISH A TRIPLE CROWN THAT WORKS FOR ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED.

BUT, THERE WAS AN ODD SET OF THINGS HAPPENING THAT PUT US IN THIS PLACE AT LEAST FOR 20262027.

>> Jeff: IN THAT ODD SET OF THINGS HAPPENING, WHAT WAS IT THAT TOUCHED OFF THE BAD BLOOD IF THERE IS BAD BLOOD?

WAS IT THE DEAL WHERE CHURCH CHURCH TRIED TO BUY THE PROPERTY RIGHTS TO THE PREAKNESS?

>> NO.

>> MARYLAND EXERCISED ITS RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL?

SOMETHING ELSE?

>> IT WAS THE DECISION THAT THE NEW MARYLAND JOCKEY CLUB NEEDED TO MAKE ABOUT THEIR PEDIA PARTNER.

MEDIA PARTNER.

AND THERE IS A FUNNY SUBPLOT TO THAT.

SIMPLY, AND THIS IS KIND OF TAKING A ONE DIMENSIONAL VIEW OF IT, HAD FOX WON THE BIDDING FOR THE PREAKNESS.

AND NBD.

>> NBC RETAINED THEIR RIGHTS TO THE PREAKNESS.

BUT HAD FOX WHAT BROADCAST THE BELMONT, HAD FOX BEEN CHOSEN, THEN, I THINK, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN A SET OF DATE SHIFTS.

I THINK THE ONE WEEK BACK FOR PREAKNESS WOULD HAVE ALSO TRIPPED A ONE-WEEK MOVE BACK FOR THE BELMONT AND YOU WOULD HAVE HAD THREE WEEKS BETWEEN DERBY AND PREAKNESS AND THREE WEEKS BETWEEN PREAKNESS AND BELMONT.

BUT THE FACT THAT NBC RETAINED THE RIGHTS, THAT, I THINK, THAT KIND OF LOGJAMMED WHAT MY RA WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO.

AT LEAST IN THE SHORT-TERM.

BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IF FOX HAD GOTTEN THE PREAKNESS, I THINK THAT THE CALENDAR WOULD HAVE BEEN STAGGERED TO EVERYONE'S IMMEDIATE SATISFACTION.

AND I SAY IMMEDIATE, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT LONG-TERM WE WILL FIND A NEW SCHEDULING FOR THE TRIPLE CROWN THAT WILL WORK.

IT VERY WELL MAYBE THAT TWO WEEKS FROM PREAKNESS TO BELMONT IS ACCEPTABLE.

AND I THINK IT IS.

I HAD BOB ON TUESDAY MORNING FROM THE SARATOGA SALE AND HE AGREED THAT ANYBODY THAT IS IN THE POSITION TO TRY FOR A TRIPLE CROWN THEY WOULD RATHER RUN TWO WEEKS LATER THAN THREE.

BECAUSE KEEPING YOUR HORSE TUNED UP FOR THE TRIPLE CROWN FOR THAT EXTRA WEEK, IT'S PROVEN PROBLEMATIC OVER THE YEARS.

>> Jeff: WELL, IF YOU WOULD, EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR NON-HORSE PEOPLE.

BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FOR YEARS WITH MODERN THOROUGHBREDS THE TWO WEEKS BETWEEN THE DERBY AND THE PREAKNESS WAS PROBLEMATIC AND INCREASINGLY DERBY WINNERS WERE SKIPPING THE PREAKNESS HOW IS TWO WEEKS OKAY AFTER YOU'VE RUN TWICE?

>> IT IS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT DYNAMIC.

IF YOU'VE ALREADY HAD TWO WINNING PERFORMANCES OVER A THREE-WEEK PERIOD, 22 DAYS NOW FROM THE FIRST SATURDAY IN MAY TO THE THIRD SUNDAY IN MAY IF THE THAT IS PREAKNESS' PLACE ON THE CALENDAR, SUNDAY DATE IS A SEPARATE DISCUSSION.

FRANKLY.

BUT IF YOU'VE ALREADY HAD THE INTENSE PRESSURE AND THE TWO PERFORM PERFORMANCES THAT GARNERED A DERBY AND PREAKNESS WIN YOUR HORSE IS IN ABSOLUTE PEAK CONDITION.

AND RUNNING HIM TWO WEEKS LATER IS EASIER THAN RUNNING HIM THREE WEEKS LATER.

AND I CANNOT TELL YOU, JEFF, HOW MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS WE HAD A TRIPLE CROWN TRY IN THE OFFING THAT THE TRAINER IN QUESTION, BOB BEHALF FORWARD, DOUG O'NEILL, ART SHERMAN ALL SAID I WISH WE WERE RUNNINGTIES SATURDAY MEANING TWO WEEKS LATER.

BECAUSE KEEPING THE HORSE ON EDGE FOR ANOTHER SEVEN DAYS IS PROBLEMATIC.

AND CAN BE PROBLEMATIC.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S BEEN DONE BEHALF FORD HAS DONE IT TWICE AFTER WE HAD THIS WAIT FOR ANOTHER TRIPET CROWN WINNER.

BUT I THINK TRAINERS WOULD GIVE THE SEAL OF APPROVAL TO A BELMONT TWO WEEKS AFTER THE PREAKNESS WITH THEIR MOVE NOW TO THAT SPOT ON THE CALENDAR.

>> Jeff: IF THEY ARE REALLY PLAYING HARDBALL HERE AND I DON'T HAVE ANY SENSE OF YOU KNOW, HOW TENSE THINGS ARE, BUT NOW THAT THE PREAKNESS IS MOVED BACK EIGHT DAYS COULD THE BELMONT JUST MOVE UP A WEEK, I GUESS, TWO WEEKS TO BASICALLY RUN A DAY AHEAD OF THE PREAKNESS?

>> NO.

THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT AND THERE IS NO NEED.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST ARGUMENTS THAT THE NEW YORK RACING ASSOCIATION HAS HAD AND ONE OF THE RESISTANCE THE KEY RESISTANCE PILOT HAS BEEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT SAID WHY DON'T WE RUN THERE'S BEEN TWO POPULAR SUGGESTIONS.

FIRST, SATURDAY IN MAY, FIRST SATURDAY IN JUNE, FIRST SATURDAY IN JULY.

THAT IS A CUTE AND SIMPLISTIC SUGGESTION.

THE PROBLEM WITH IT IS THERE'S ALL THE OTHER STAKES CERTAINLY ON NIRA'S SCHEDULE THAT FEED INTO SARATOGA.

THEY CAN'T JUST ON A WHOLESALE BASIS, REARRANGE THEIR ENTIRE STAKE SCHEDULE JUST TO SUIT THE POTENTIAL NEEDS OF THE TRIPLE CROWN.

SO THAT'S BEEN CERTAINLY THE RESISTANCE TO MOVING ALL THE WAY TO THE FIRST SATURDAY IN JULY.

THE OTHER SUGGESTION THAT WAS VERY POPULAR WAS THREE WEEKS BETWEEN DERBY AND PREAKNESS AND THEN FOUR WEEKS BETWEEN PREAKNESS AND BELMONT.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

BUT IT'S NOT GREAT.

NIRA, THERE HAD BEEN RUMORS THAT, AGAIN, HAD FOX WON THE BIDDING FOR THE PREAKNESS, THAT PREAKNESS WOULD HAVE MOVED BACK A WEEK AND BELMONT WOULD HAVE MOVED BACK A WEEK AS WELL.

WE WOULD HAVE HAD TWO, THREE-WEEK GAPS AND THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ACCEPTABLE FOR EVERYBODY AND I THINK THAT IS A PRACTICAL SOLUTION.

ONE OF THE JEOPARDIES OF THIS FOX NBC DYNAMIC THE TWO AGREED TO PARTICIPATE AND PARTNER IN THE NEW CHURCHILL, NIRA THE SUGGESTED SIX-RACE SERIES.

IF IF THEY ARE AMENABLE TO DOING THAT AND WORKING TOGETHER TO PROMOTE THIS NEW CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES, THEN WHY WAS THERE SUCH PRESSURE AND ANGST OVER THE SCHEDULE BEING ADJUSTED IN THE IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH OF THE MARYLAND JOCKEY CLUB REUPPING WITH NBC?

MY CONFIDENCE IS THAT THERE'S ROOM FOR EVERYBODY IN HERE.

THAT THERE'S ALSO ROOM FOR THE HASKELL AND THE PENNSYLVANIA DERBY AND WE CAN HAVE A PRO TACTED THREE-YEAR-OLD CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON THAT IS INCLUSIVE OF ALL THE LANDMARK DATES IN ALL THE GREAT THREE-YEAR-OLD RACES OF THE YEAR.

>> Jeff: RACING FANS LISTEN TO STEVE BYK MORNINGS ON SIRIUS XM RADIO, 9-NOON.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> MY PLEASURE, JEFF.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

[♪♪] >> Jeff: AND NOW ON THE BOOK BEAT HERE IS NANCY YAMADA.

>> JOINING ME IS Dr.

LUCY MCBRIDE THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK CALLED "BEYOND THE PRESCRIPTION: A DOCTOR'S GUIDE TO TAKING CHARGE OF YOUR HEALTH".

WELCOME THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

A LOT OF US ARE FEELING OVERWHELMED AND CONFUSED BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH CONFLICTING INFORMATION WHEN IT COMES TO OUR HEALTH.

AND I UNDERSTAND YOU SAY CHOOSING SIDES IS FAILING US.

I'M SO INTRIGUED.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON THE SHOW.

YES, THE AVERAGE PERSON IS BEING INUNDATED WITH HEADLINES AND MESSAGES FROM THE WELLNESS INDUSTRY WHILE THEY ARE FEELING DISMISSED AND UNHEARD IN THE MEDICAL SYSTEM.

THROUGH NO FAULT OF PHYSICIANS.

OUR SYSTEM TENDS TO TREAT PATIENTS LIKE A SET OF SYMPTOMS AND DIAGNOSE AND NOT WHOLE PEOPLE.

MY BOOK IS REALLY OWED TO THE PERSON WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHO TO TRUST, WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHERE TO TURN WHO WANTS TO MAKE MORE SENSE OF THEIR HEALTH AND HAVE AGENCY OVER THEIR EVERYDAY HEALTH.

>> I UNDERSTAND THIS BOOK COMES BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE NOT ONLY AS A DOCTOR BUT AS A PATIENT?

>> RIGHT.

SO I LIKE SO MANY PEOPLE, WAS BOUNCED AROUND FROM SPECIALIST TO SPECIALIST WHEN I WASN'T WELL IN MY 20s AND 30s AND NO ONE ASKED ME THE QUESTION HOW ARE YOU?

WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOUR LIFE?

HOW DO THE INTERNAL NARRATIVES THAT PLAY LIKE A TAPE IN YOUR MIND HAVE TO DO WITH YOUR BEHAVIORS AND YOUR DECISIONS ABOUT HEALTH?

SO I WANTED TO WRITE THIS BOOK.

IT IS NOT A HERE'S WHAT TO DO, DO AS I SAY BOOK.

IT'S HERE HOW TO THINK ABOUT YOUR HEALTH.

OUR STORIES LIMIT OUR BODIES.

OUR PAST EXPERIENCES OUR ATTITUDES TOWARDS OUR HEALTH HAVE EVERYTHING TO DO WITH HOW WE SHOW UP IN THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I ASK PEOPLE TO DO IN THIS BOOK IS TAKE STOCK OF YOUR, EXCAVATE ALL OF THE DATA YOU HAVE IN YOUR OWN BODY AND BRING A MORE SORT OF HOLISTIC RENDERING OF YOURSELF TO YOUR DOCTOR'S OFFICE TO GET WHAT YOU NEED NOT SOMEONE ELSE.

>> IT DOESN'T HELP AS THERE IS A PLETHORA OF INFORMATION ON THE WEB, CHATURVEDI, THE INFLUENCERS OUT THERE THAT HELP INFLUENCERS HOW DO WE WHAT IS A GOOD WAY TO START FIGURING OUT WHAT IS RIGHT FOR US?

>> I THINK IT STARTS STEP ONE IN THE BOOK UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE.

MAKE IT SPECIFIC.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO FEEL LIKE?

HOW DO YOU WANT TO BE HEALTH WISE TOMORROW, A WEEK FROM TODAY OR A YEAR FROM TODAY?

DO YOU WANT TO HAVE LOST WEIGHT?

DO YOU WANT TO HAVE LEFT A TOXIC WORKPLACE?

DO YOU WANTED TO QUIT DRINKING OR AS YOU ARE DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO PREVENT DISEASE LONG-TERM.

IF YOU AREN'T SPECIFIC ABOUT YOUR GOALS, THE MEDICAL SYSTEM WILL MAKE THEM FOR YOU.

AND THE WELLNESS INDUSTRY WILL TELL YOU IT'S ABOUT PROTOCOLS AND SOMEONE ELSE'S IDEALS ON HEALTH T WILL TELL YOU IT'S ABOUT EATING OR EXERCISE.

NOW, I BELIEVE IN HEALTHY EATING AND I BELIEVE IN EXERCISE THOSE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PATIENT, THE AVERAGE PERSON, TO SET THEIR OWN GOALS DECIDE WHAT HEALTH MEANS TO THEM FIRST AND FOREMOST.

>> I UNDERSTAND IN TALKING WITH ESPECIALLY OLDER WOMEN A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY ARE BEING DISMISSED BY THE DOCTORS THEY ARE NOT SPENDING A LOT OF TIME WITH THEM.

OR SOMETIMES LAB RESULTS LOOK NORMAL AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE DOCTOR'S NOT ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE PATIENTS' CONCERNS.

WHERE IS THE PROBLEM?

AND HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR OURSELVES WITHOUT SEEMING LIKE A PROBLEM PATIENT?

>> LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT A PATIENT I SAW A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

DIAGNOSED WITH ARTHRITIS IN HER HIP.

ARTHRITIS WAS SEEN ON THE X-RAY BUT THE PAIN HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FINDING IT HAD TO DO WITH A WEAK PELVIC FLOOR FROM POST-MENOPAUSAL ESTROGEN COMPLETION IT WAS PAINFUL BECAUSE IT WAS NOT FIRING IT WAS MUSCLE INSTABILITY.

NO ONE UNDERSTOOD THAT BECAUSE IT TOOK TIME TO ELICIT THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKING.

THIS IS NOT THE FAULT OF DOCTORS I WANT TO BE LAUD AND CLEAR.

THE SYSTEM REWARDS PHYSICIANS FOR VOLUMES OF PATIENTS NOT OUTCOMES.

SO DOCTORS WANTED TO HAVE TIME TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMEONE'S MENOPAUSAL STATUS THEIR URINARY INKOPBTSD NEXT THEIR PAIN WITH INTERCOURSE HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE HIP PAIN BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE TIME SO WE LOOK AT LABS AND SCANS AND WE CALL PATIENTS HEALTHIER BASED ON DATA WITHOUT CONTEXT.

SO MY POINT HERE IS THAT WE NEED TO BE BETTER ADVOCATE FOR OURSELVES.

WE NEED TO TAKE TIME BEFORE THE APPOINTMENT STARTS TO TAKE STOCK OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR LIVES THE THINGS WE'RE EMBARRASSED TO SAY OUT LOUD.

THE MUNDANE WORKING OF OUR FUNCTIONS AND TRY TO CONNECT THE DOTS BETWEEN OUR MENTAL HEALTH, FISH CAL HEALTH, NUTRITIONAL HEALTH TO ADVOCATE WHAT WE FEED.

IT TAKES TIME TO SERVICE THE QUESTIONS AND YOUR DOCTOR PROBABLY WON'T HAVE THAT TIME.

>> YOU TALK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO KNOW YOUR PATIENT PERSONALITY.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

>> THE PATIENT PERSONALITY IS THE VERSION OF YOURSELF THAT SHOWS UP WHEN YOU ARE A PATIENT.

WHEN YOU ARE ON THE EXAM TABLE WAITING FOR THE DOCTOR TO COME INTO THE ROOM.

I HAVE A PATIENT PERSONALITY, TOO.

THE REASON TO UNDERSTAND IS NOT PIGEONHOLE YOU BUT TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR HEALTH.

WHAT IS YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS HEALTH AND DOCTORS?

AND ARE YOU THE PEOPLE PLEASER THE PERSON WHO THINKS IF I CAN GET MY CENTER TO LIKE ME EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY AND MINIMIZESSED SYSTEMS OR THE INTERNET WARRIOR THAT COMES IN WITH SPREAD SHEETS AND A LOT OF ANXIETY.

THE REASON IS TO SAY TO YOUR DOCTOR HEY, DOC, I TEND TO BE A PEOPLE PLEASER AND JUDGED BY DOCTORS I WANT TO TAKE TIME TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS UNCOMFORTABLE FOR ME AND BE HONEST WITH YOU.

THAT CHANGES THE INTERACTION FROM PRESCRIPTIVE ADVICE TO A CONVERSATION.

>> ARE YOU HOPING THAT DOCTORS CAN FIND VALUE IN IT AS WELL?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

ALL OF US WHAT WENT INTO MEDICINE WENT INTO THE FIELD TO TAKE CARE OF WHOLE PEOPLE AND NOT JUST LAB TESTS I HOPE MY BOOK ELICITS QUESTIONS I WANT PATIENT PATIENTS TO BE ASKING THEMSELVES AND I HOPE DOCTORS WILL FIND THE TIME AND STRENGTH TO ASK PATIENTS.

BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S NOT THE ANSWER THAT WE NEED RIGHT AWAY.

IT'S THE QUESTION BENEATH THE QUESTION WE NEED TO SURFACE TO FIND THE ANSWER.

>> Dr.

MCBRIDE THE "BEYOND THE PRESCRIPTION: A DOCTOR'S GUIDE TO TAKING CHARGE OF YOUR HEALTH" HELPING PATIENTS MAKE MORE CHOICES AND FEEL EMPOWERED.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU, NANCY.

[♪♪] >> Jeff: CONTINUING NOW OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CANDIDATES FOR GOVERNOR OF MARYLAND.

WE ARE JOINED BY CATHY WHITE THE NOMINEE OF THE WORKING CLASS PARTY.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF, AND WHY YOU ARE RUNNING?

>> YES.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

I'M RUNNING BECAUSE I THINK THE WORKING CLASS NEEDS ITS OWN ORGANIZATION.

WE ARE THE ONES THAT CAN BEST REPRESENT OUR OWN INTERESTS.

I AM A WORKER.

I HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS IN A FACTORY.

MY WAGES DON'T KEEP UP WITH INFLATION.

TAKING CARE OF ELDERLY PARENTS.

HEALTHCARE ALL THESE ISSUES ARE ISSUES THAT I'M PERSONALLY FACING AND SO ARE MILLIONS OF OTHER WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.

AND THOSE, I THINK, WE'RE BEST TO SPEAK FOR OURSELVES.

POLITICIANS I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL POLITICIAN.

AND THEY CAN'T SPEAK FOR OUR INTERESTS AND THEY DON'T KNOW OUR PROBLEMS.

>> Jeff: WELL, TELL US IF YOU WOULD A LITTLE BIT BIT MORE ABOUT THE PARTY?

PROGRESSIVE POLITICS GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION AT THE MOMENT, THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS WORKING WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE GREEN PARTY WHERE DO YOU DIFFER?

>> WE DIFFER IN THAT WE THINK THIS CAN'T HAPPEN IN THE TWO MAIN PARTIES WHICH HAVE BEEN RUNNING THE COUNTRY FOR LIKE 170 YEARS.

WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR OWN ORGANIZATION.

IT CAN'T HAPPEN INSIDE THOSE TWO MAIN PARTIES.

AND WE'RE TOLD THAT WE HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THIS GUY OVER HERE OR THIS GUY OVER HERE.

BUT, IN FACT, WE CAN CHOOSE TO ORGANIZE OURSELVES AND HAVE OUR OWN PARTY AND SPEAK FOR OURSELVES.

STHAOR TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE PARTY?

WHERE DID IT GET STARTED WITHIN MARYLAND?

WHERE DID IT GET STARTED IN KIND OF WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS FOR THIS ELECTION?

>> ACTUALLY WE WERE INSPIRED BY SOME PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW WHO STARTED WORKING CLASS PARTY IN MICHIGAN.

AND THEY ARE RUNNING SEVERAL CANDIDATES.

I DON'T KNOW I THINK IT'S AT LEAST 11 MAYBE IT'S MORE THAN THAT.

SORRY I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER.

AND OF COURSE THEY GET HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VOTES THERE.

THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS.

SO WE STARTED TO DO IT HERE.

WE WANTED TO GET BALLOT STATUS.

IN ORDER TO GET OUR MESSAGE OUT, SOMETIMES IT'S EASIER TO TALK TO PEOPLE DURING ELECTION TIME CAMPAIGNING YOU KNOW.

SO BUT GETTING BALLOT STATUS IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND IS NOT SIMPLE.

YOU HAVE TO GET OVER 10,000 SIGNATURES.

WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

AND THERE'S OTHER HOOPS OF FIRE YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH.

IT IS SORT OF A ONE PARTY STATE AND THEY DON'T LIKE LETTING OTHER PEOPLE IN TOO EASILY.

>> Jeff: GETTING ON THE BALLOT IS A BIG DEAL.

AND YOU CAN GROW FROM THERE.

IS THERE I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS.

>> IT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE LOTS AND LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE FED UP WITH THE DEMOCRATS AND THE REPUBLICANS.

AND THIS GIVES -- A LOT LOW OF WORKERS DON'T VOTE BECAUSE THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE ANYONE TO VOTE FOR.

WHO ARE THEY GOING TO VOTE FOR?

THERE ISN'T ANYONE WHO REPRESENTS THEM THAT LOOKS LIKE THEM, THAT IS EXPERIENCING THEIR PROBLEMS.

AND WE'RE GIVING THEM A CHANCE THIS YEAR, THEY DO HAVE SOMEBODY THEY CAN VOTE FOR WORKING CLASS PARTY.

THEY CAN SAY THEY ARE FED UP.

THEY CAN SAY NO, WE DON'T ACCEPT THIS.

IT'S A WAY TO ORGANIZE PEOPLE.

AND GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO HAVE A VOICE.

>> Jeff: NO QUESTION PEOPLE ARE SQUEEZED FINANCIALLY FOR ALL SORTS OF REASONS.

AND PROGRESSIVE POLITICS ANIMATED BY THAT RIGHT NOW.

WHEN IT GETS BRANDED AND I WON'T SAY WHO IS BRANDING IT BUT WHEN IT GETS BRANDED AS COMMUNISM OR SOCIALISM IS THAT A TURN OFF FOR TOO MANY PEOPLE?

HOW WOULD YOU ANSWER THAT?

>> I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU SAY YOU WANT THINGS FOR WORKERS THAT GIVE IT THAT LABEL.

THAT IS SOCIALIST THAT IS COMMUNIST.

I'M NOT AFRAID OF THOSE WORDS, RED BATHING IS AN OLD THINGS THEY DO TO FRIGHTEN PEOPLE.

BUT, IN FACT, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT WORKING PEOPLE ARE GOING BACKWARDS.

THINGS ARE GETTING WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE.

AND THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN GET BETTER IS IF WE'RE ORGANIZED.

AND RIGHT NOW THEY ARE DIVIDING US BOTH PARTIES ARE DIVIDING US LIKE ATTACKING IMMIGRANTS.

THEY ARE NOT OUR ENEMY.

THEY ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.

THEY ARE NOT THE CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM.

AND ATTACKING IMMIGRANTS IS AN ATTACK ON THE WORKING CLASS IT IS AN ATTACK AGAINST US.

YOU THINK THEY ARE GOING TO STOP THERE?

IN FACT THEY HAVE KILLED TWO CITIZENS.

YOU KNOW.

AND THEY HAVE DEPORTED CITIZENS, IN FACT.

[INAUDIBLE] SO AND THEY HAVE MONEY FOR WAR BUT NONE FOR SCHOOLS, NONE FOR MEDICAID.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO STAND UP AGAINST.

AND I DON'T SEE EITHER PARTY STANDING UP AGAINST THE WAR OR STANDING UP AGAINST ANTI-IMMIGRATION STUFF.

>> Jeff: LET ME ASK YOU TWO QUESTIONS THAT GET ASKED OF THIRD PARTIES.

FIRST, IS THE VIABILITY QUESTION.

HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY WITH NO RESOURCES AND NO HISTORY MAKE A DENT IN THIS ELECTION?

AND THE RELATED FLIP QUESTION IS THAT HISTORICALLY IN NATIONAL POLITICS THE PRESIDENTIAL LEVEL WE'VE HAD OCCASIONS WHERE A THIRD PARTY CANDIDACY MAY HAVE TAKEN JUST ENOUGH ROTES AWAY FROM -- VOTES AWAY FROM ONE OF THE IMAGE PARTIES TO SHIFT IT TO THE OTHER PARTY FOR PRESIDENT OR A KEY SEAT IN THE U.S.

SENATE.

HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

>> ONE, WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.

AND TWO, IT STILL GIVES PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR OPINION, TO SAY WE DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY.

AND AS FAR AS SPLITTING THE VOTE I THINK IT WORKS BOTH WAYS IN OUR CASE.

I THINK BOTH BECAUSE I'VE TALKED TO MANY, MANY WORKERS, WORKERS WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP FOR EXAMPLE AND OTHER WORKERS AND THEY HAVE VOTED FOR US.

SO WE'VE TAKEN FROM BOTH PARTIES.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EQUALLY.

BUT THE THING IS IT'S NOT SO MUCH HORIZONTAL THINGS AS UP DOWN THING.

PEOPLE ON THE BOTTOM WE DO ALL THE WORK, PRODUCING ALL THE WEALTH WE ACTUALLY MAKE THINGS RUN, BUT WE HAVE NO POLITICAL POWER AND IN MY OPINION WE SHOULD BE RUNNING THINGS SINCE WE MAKE THE FOOD, WE EVERYTHING.

IS DEPENDENT ON US.

IF WE DON'T WORK, EVERYTHING STOPS.

>> Jeff: CATHY WHITE IS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR AS THE NOMINEE OF THE WORKING CLASS PARTY.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> Jeff: FOR MORE CANDIDATE INTERVIEWS VISIT MPT DOT ORIGINAL/VOTE 2026.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.

WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE MONDAY EVENING AT 7:00 P.M.

FOR "DIRECT CONNECTION".

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