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[♪♪] CONNECTING MARYLANDERS TO THEIR GOVERNMENT, THIS IS "STATE CIRCLE".

>> Jeff: WELCOME TO "STATE CIRCLE."

JUST AHEAD ON OUR PROGRAM THIS WEEK ANALYZINGED FALLOUT FROM THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT DECISION.

AND THE BITTER AND EXPENSIVE SIXTH DISTRICT CONGRESSIONAL RACE.

FIRST, THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTION CONTINUES TO WORK TO UNTANGLE A PRINTING ERROR INVOLVING MAIL-IN BALLOTS THIS AFFECTS ALL VOTERS WHO VOTE-BY-MAIL OR USE A DROP BOX AFTER THE STATE BOARD YESTERDAY WE CAUGHT UP WITH ADMINISTRATOR JARED DEMARINIS.

SIR THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

AND I KNOW YOU ARE REALLY BUSY.

YOU TOLD THE BOARD THAT EVERYBODY WHO GOT A MAIL-IN BALLOT WILL GET A REPLACEMENT BALLOT AND THEY SHOULD HAVE HAVE THEM BY MONDAY?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

EVERYTHING HAS BEEN IN THE MAIL IT WAS TWO DAYS AHEAD OF OURSELF IMPOSED DEADLINE OF THE 29TH.

NOW BALLOTS SHOULD BE HITTING THE MAILBOXES FOR THOSE POTENTIALLY AFFECTED VOTERS HOPEFULLY WE HOPE SATURDAY BUT MOST LIKELY MONDAY.

>> Jeff: SO THEY PROBABLY HAVE THE PREVIOUS BALLOTS SITTING ON THE COUNTER AND WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO DO?

>> VOTE THE REPLACEMENT BALLOT AND SHRED THE ORIGINAL BALLOT.

BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL BALLOT WE COULD NOT IDENTIFY WHO IS IMPACTED BY THE VENDOR ERROR WITH THE BASICALLY, AT THE TIME OF THE PACKAGING AND INSERTING THE BALLOT PACKET INTO THE OUTER ENVELOPE THAT IS WHERE THERE WAS THE ERROR THAT OCCURRED.

SO WITH THE REPLACEMENT BALLOT WE CAN GUARANTEE YOU HAVE RECEIVED THE CORRECT BALLOT STYLE FOR YOU IN THIS PRIMARY ELECTION.

>> Jeff: ALL RIGHT.

WHAT IF THAT ORIGINAL BALLOT WAS NOT AN ERROR THEY DID NOT GET THE WRONG PARTY THEY GOT THE CORRECT PARTY AND THEY ARE NOT PROCRASTINATORS THEY VOTED IMMEDIATELY AND STUCK IT IN THE MAIL WHAT SHOULD THEY DO NOW WITH THE REPLACMENT BALLOT?

>> WE'RE GOING TO QUARANTINE THOSE BALLOTS BECAUSE WE HAVE ISSUED A REPLACEMENT BALLOT.

WE WANT THEM TO VOTE THAT REPLACEMENT BALLOT AND THEY WILL GET A NOTICE FROM US SAYING WE'VE RECEIVED YOUR ORIGINAL BALLOT, PLEASE VOTE THE REPLACEMENT BALLOT BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONE WE KNOW FOR SURE IS 100% CORRECT.

THE ORIGINAL ORIGINAL ONE MIGHT BE CORRECT AND THERE IS A HIGH PROBABILITY THAT IT IS WE STILL WANT YOU TO VOTE THE REPLACEMENT BALLOT.

>> Jeff: WHAT HAPPENS IN A SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY ALREADY VOTED AND NOW MAYBE THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR MIND ABOUT SOME RACE OR THEY ARE CONFUSED ABOUT THE INSTRUCTIONS AND THEY ALSO VOTE THE REPLACEMENT BALLOT, WHAT HAPPENS?

>> WE COUNT THE REPLACEMENT BALLOT WE HAVE PROTOCOLS TO GUARANTEE ONE BALLOT WILL BE COUNTED AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE SAYING THAT THE REPLACEMENT BALLOT WILL BE THE ONE THAT WE WILL COUNT.

IF IT COMES IN, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAST THE ORIGINAL BALLOT, WE WILL COUNT THE REPLACEMENT BALLOT.

IF YOU GO YOU KNOW, IN PERSON AND YOU HAVE CAST THE ORIGINAL BALLOT AND YOU TRY TO GO DURING EARLY VOTING DURING JUNE 11-18 OR PRIMARY DAY ON JUNE 23, YOU WILL BE VOTING A PROVISIONAL BALLOT AT WHICH POINT WE WILL BE COUNTING THE PROVISIONAL BALLOT.

WE TOLD EVERYONE NOT TO VOTE THE ORIGINAL BALLOT.

SO THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS THERE.

IN TOES TWO SCENARIOS.

>> Jeff: WHAT HAS BEEN THE COMMUNICATION STRATEGY TO REACH EVERYBODY CERTAINLY YOU HAVE EVERYBODY'S ADDRESS.

SO YOU'VE SENT POSTCARDS.

BUT THIS IS SORT OF OUT OF THE ORDINARY.

YOU HAVE A COMPLICATED MESSAGE TO GET OUT.

YOU ARE TALKING TO US WHICH WE APPRECIATE.

>> THANKS, YEAH, BESIDES THE MEDIA AND TALKING TO YOU, JEFF, ABOUT ALL THESE ISSUES HERE, THE BIGGEST THING WE SENT OUT E-MAILS OVER 400,000 E-MAILS TO THE AFFECTED POPULATION.

WE SENT OUT OVER 100,000 TEXT MESSAGES IF WE HAD THEIR PHONE NUMBERS.

SO YEAH, WE HAVE MADE SURE THAT WE'VE HAD AN AGGRESSIVE VOTER OUTREACH TO THIS AFFECTED POTENTIALLY AFFECTED POPULATION.

ADDITIONALLY, OUTSIDE OF THAT WHICH WAS JUST THE REGULAR MESSAGE ABOUT VOTE THE REPLACEMENT BALLOT TO THE ONES THAT HAVE ALREADY CAST THE ORIGINAL BALLOT WE ARE GOING TO SEND OUT ANOTHER MESSAGE EXCLUSIVELY FOR THEM TELLING THEM THAT WE HAVE POSSESSION OF THE ORIGINAL BALLOT BUT TO VOTE THIS REPLACEMENT BALLOT.

>> Jeff: IS THERE ANYWAY THAT THE SURPLUS OF BALLOTS OUT THERE COULD RESULT IN FRAUD?

CERTAINLY ANYBODY WHO LOSES A LITTLE LOCAL RACE HOUSE OF DELEGATES RACE, IN SOME DISTRICT BY FIVE VOTES IS GOING TO BE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT?

>> SO, LET ME JUST ASSURE YOU AND YOUR LISTENERS AND YOUR VIEWERS AS WELL ABOUT THIS.

REPLACEMENT BALLOTS IS NOT A NEW PHENOMENON.

RIGHT?

PEOPLE HAVE HAD MAIL-IN BALLOTS REQUESTS FOR A LONGTIME AND WE'VE ISSUED THEM REPLACEMENTS THEY CALL UP I KPTD'S FIND IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO IT, THE DOG ATE IT.

ANY OF THOSE VALID EXCUSES.

SO WE WOULD ISSUE THEM A SECOND REPLACEMENT BALLOT.

WE HAVE ALREADY STANDARD PROTOCOLS IN PLACE TO IDENTIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BALLOTS.

AND SO THAT WE KNOW WHEN WE TAKE POSSESSION.

IT THE ORIGINAL ONES WILL BE SEGREGATED AND ISOLATED AND QUARANTINED OFF WHILE WE KNOW THE ONE WHEN THE REPLACEMENTS COME IN.

ON THE OUTER ENVELOPE IT SAYS REPLACEMENT BALLOT INSIDE.

AND IT CAN BE CHECKED IN.

ALL THESE WE HAVE SECURITY FEATURES ALREADY BUILT IN PLACE FOR THIS TYPE OF SCENARIO.

SO OVERALL, THE LOCAL BOARDS KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS HAVING VOTER REQUEST A REPLACEMENT BALLOT.

IN THIS CASE IT IS THE VOLUME WHICH IS UNPRECEDENTED.

BUT, THE PROCESS AND THE SECURITY FEATURES ARE ALL THERE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE CAN COME ON TV AND I CAN SAY WE'RE ONLY ONE BALLOT WILL COUNT.

>> Jeff: THE OTHER THING WE SHOULD REMIND VOTERS ABOUT THE RULES AT THE POST OFFICE HAVE CHANGED.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE PUT IT IN A DROP BOX THEY ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

IT MAYBE EASIER TO PUT IT IN A MAILBOX AND NOW THERE'S LESS CERTAINTY ABOUT GETTING THE POSTMARK BEFORE ELECTION DAY OR ON ELECTION DAY IF YOU ARE MAILING IT ON ELECTION DAY?

>> ONE.

THINGS IS -- ONE OF THE THINGS THE POSTMARK HAS DELAYED IT.

MARYLAND IS A POSTMARK STATE IT HAS TO BE POSTMARKED ON OR BEFORE JUNE 23T CAN BE RECEIVED AFTERWARDS FOR THIS TO COUNT.

I KNOW THERE IS A SUPREME COURT DECISION THAT MIGHT BE LOOMING IT WILL NOT IMPACT THE PRIMARY ELECTION.

IT MAY HAVE AN IMPACT TO THE GENERAL AND WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT CASE SOON ENOUGH.

BUT FOR THIS ONE HERE, IT WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON THE PRIMARY ELECTION.

THE POSTMARK IS VITAL.

IF YOU GET CLOSER TO PRIMARY DAY, WHAT WE RECOMMEND THE USE OF THE DROP BOX.

AND TO USE WE HAVE AN APP NOW GO VOTE MARYLAND, APP SO DOWNLOAD THE APP AND IT ALL ALL THE DROP BOXES RIGHT THERE.

YOU PRESS THE BUTTON AND IT WILL DIRECT YOU TO THE NEAREST DROP BOX MORE CONVENIENT THAN THE POST OFFICE BOX.

THAT'S WHAT WE RECOMMEND.

DOWNLOADING THE APP AND USING THE DROP BOXES.

>> Jeff: OUR THANKS TO JARED DEMARINIS.

NOW THE FALLOUT OF THE SUPREME COURT DECISION WITH SOME CONSERVATIVE STATES REDRAWING THEIR CONGRESSIONAL MAPS.

WE SPOKE WITH HARVARD TRAINED DISTRICT CONGRESSMAN GLENN IVEY.

CONGRESSMAN THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

I'M HOPING YOU CAN ELABORATE ON MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE SUPREME COURT DID HERE WITH THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, WHICH I UNDERSTAND TO MEAN THERE'S NO LONGER A REQUIREMENT THAT WHERE POSSIBLE STATES HAVE TO DRAW DISTRICTS WITH A MAJORITY OF MINORITY GROUP MEMBERS.

YOUR THOUGHTS?

>> YEAH, THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT JUSTICE ALITO DID WHEN HE WROTE THAT OPINION.

IT SORT OF GUTTED THE PREVIOUS INTERPRETATIONS AND RULING WITH RESPECT TO SECTION 2 OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT THAT DID LOOK AT RACE AS AN ISSUE AND HOW THE DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN DRAWN.

AND ALSO, ALLOWING A TEST WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THE LINES THAT HAVE BEEN DRAWN WITH RESPECT TO RACE.

ALITO THREW OUT THAT AND SAID YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU CAN PROVE ACTUAL INTENT YOU NEED A SMOKING GUN TO SHOW THEY REDREW THE LINES FOR RACIAL REASONS THAT IS INSUFFICIENT.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU CAN REDRAW LINES BASED ON PARTISAN REASONS YOU CAN DO IT FOR DEMOCRATIC OR REPUBLICAN GOALS.

AND WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS THERE IS A HIGH-RISK THAT STATE LEGISLATURES CAN REDRAW THOSE LINES WITH AN EFFECT OF DILUTING BLACK VOTERS AND SAYING THEY DID IT FOR PARTISAN REASONS TO HELP REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES.

AND THAT IS THE CONCERN.

>> Jeff: DOES IT AFFECT YOUR DISTRICT?

WHICH IS LARGELY CENTERED IN PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY?

>> IT IS NOT GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON MINE BECAUSE IT IS SO THE WAY MY DISTRICT IS CONFIGURED WE HAVE LARGE AFRICAN-AMERICAN POPULATION IN MY DISTRICT.

IT'S ABOUT 66%.

CHARLES COUNTY BENEATH US OR SOUTH OF US, IS AN INCREASINLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

AND TO THE EAST, ANNE ARUNDEL COUNTY, THERE IS A LOT OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS THERE, TOO.

I DON'T KNOW THAT MARYLAND'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED BY THIS DECISION AT LEAST NOT IN THE SAME WAY THAT STATES LIKE ALABAMA, MISSISSIPPI , MISSOURI AND OTHER ONES WILL BE OR ALREADY BEING AFFECTED.

SOME STATE LEGISLATURES MOVED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE RULING TO START REDRAWING THOSE LINES AND WE'RE SEEING THE IMPACT OF WHAT THAT CAN MEAN.

>> Jeff: IT OPENS THE DOOR FOR THE RED STATES TO DO THAT AND THE BLUE STATES DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE ANYTHING REALLY?

>> WELL, NOT FOR THOSE REASONS.

AT LEAST NOT IN MARYLAND I CANNOT SPEAK TO ALL OF THE BLUE STATES.

IN MARYLAND, TO THE EXTENT WE WERE GOING TO REDRAW THE LINES AND THE PROPOSAL WAS TO JUST TO BE CANDID, ANDY HARRIS' DISTRICT MORE DEMOCRATIC SO A BETTER CHANCE OF DEFEATING HIM IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.

PRETTY MUCH THERE IS NOT A LOT OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS THAT ARE IN OR NEXT TO HIS DISTRICT.

BUT THIS WOULD BE ONE WHERE YOU ARE MOVING DEMOCRATIC VOTES INTO A DISTRICT AND MOST OF THOSE DEMOCRATIC VOTES ARE THERE IS A MIX FROM A RACIAL STANDPOINT.

YOU DO NOT HAVE THE CARVING UP LIKE MEMPHIS, MINORITY AREA, AND THEN THEY CARVE IT INTO THREE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS WHEN IT HAD ONLY BEEN ONE AND ONE GOES FOR 150 MILES.

YOU KNOW, JUSTIFY THE CREATION OF THAT DISTRICT.

OBVIOUS GERRYMANDER AND ATTEMPT TO DILUTE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTER STRENGTH.

SO THAT REPUBLICANS WOULD HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF WINNING IN THOSE DISTRICTS.

AND THE INVERSE OF THAT, THE CURRENT DEMOCRAT WHO IS WHITE, BY THE WAY, WOULD HAVE LESS CHANCE OF BEING ABLE TO GET REELECTED.

>> Jeff: THE IMPACT OF THIS WILL MEAN A SMALLER BLACK CAUCUS, WILL IT NOT?

>> IT VERY WELL COULD.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS IT MAYBE THAT BECAUSE THE STATE LEGISLATURES REDREW THE LINES BASED ON THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL CYCLE WHICH WAS A GOOD CYCLE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS, BUT IN 2026 IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A GREAT YEAR FOR THE REPUBLICANS AND CERTAINLY THE TRUMP IS NOT GOING TO BE MOVING DEMOCRATIC VOTES IN THE SAME WAY THAT IT DID IN 2024.

IT MAYBE THAT THEY ARE OVERESTIMATING THE ABILITY TO CARRY DISTRICTS.

IN NORTH CAROLINA, THE SORT OF BLACK BELT SO-CALLED EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA THEY CUT IT IN TWO AND CREATED TWO CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS WHEN IT HAD BEEN HELD BY CONGRESSMAN DON DAVIS.

BUT THOSE DISTRICTS NOW ARE ROUGHLY R PLUS 5, R PLUS 6 AND THAT IS BASED ON THE 2024 NUMBERS BASED ON THE NUMBERS ARE NOW WITH TRUMP BEING SO UNDERWATER WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WIN DISTRICTS INSTEAD OF HOLDING ON TO THAT ONE.

WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT.

>> Jeff: YOU KNOW WE'RE HEARING THE MARYLAND GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS GOING TO COME BACK FOR A SPECIAL SESSION IN ABOUT A MONTH MAYBE FARTHER OUT TO BASICALLY NEUTRALIZE A DECISION IN THE STATE COURT THAT LIMITED THE ABILITY TO GERRYMANDER BASICALLY, WITH THE IDEA OF ELIMINATING THAT REPUBLICAN DISTRICT THAT IS CENTERED ON THE EASTERN SHORES.

IT IS NOT YOUR DEPARTMENT BUT IS THAT A MOVE YOU WOULD SUPPORT?

>> YEAH.

I MEAN SORT OF GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU KNOW, THE OPPOSITION TO GERRYMANDERING AND YET ERIC HOLDER HE CREATED THAT GROUP THAT WAS TRYING TO HAVE A NEUTRAL APPROACH TO HOW THE LINES WERE DRAWN I SUPPORTED THAT.

ONCE PRESIDENT TRUMP CALLED TEXAS AND SAID GIVE ME FIVE SEATS THAT ARE CURRENTLY HELD BY DEMOCRATS AND TEXAS MOVED FORWARD ON THAT AND WE'VE SEEN THE RESULTS OF THAT JUST THIS WEEK.

I THINK YOU GOT TO FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE.

WE CANNOT ALLOWED TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND HOUSE REPUBLICANS AND SENATE REPUBLICANS TO HOLD ON TO THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS IN PARTICULAR, I'M SORRY, TO HOLD ON TO THEIR SEATS BY GERRYMANDERING.

AND SORT OF MID-DECADE INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL THE END OF THE DECADE TO CHANGE THE LINES.

I THINK WE CAN'T CONCEDE THE HOUSE TO THE REPUBLICANS JUST BY LETTING THEM PLAY GAMES WITH THE LINES.

BY THE WAY, IF YOU LOOK AT NORTH CAROLINA, THEY MOVED THREE SEATS AND JUST THIS FASHION IN THE LAST CYCLE.

SO WE HAD THREE DEMOCRATS THAT WERE DRAWN OUT OF THEIR DISTRICTS IN NORTH CAROLINA.

THAT FOR A WHILE WAS THE MARGIN OF THE MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE OF HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

IF THEY HAD NOT DONE THAT CHANGE THE DEMOCRATS WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE MAJORITY POTENTIALLY DURING THAT TIME-FRAME.

>> Jeff: IRONIC WITH ALL THIS GOING ON WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FIFTH DISTRICT WHERE STENY HOYER IS RETIRING MARYLAND MAY SEND THREE AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEMBERS TO THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TO WASHINGTON?

>> YEAH, I MEAN I THINK THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE OF THAT.

ALL OF THE TOP CANDIDATES ARE AFRICAN-AMERICAN.

IN FACT, MOST OF THE CANDIDATES ARE AFRICAN-AMERICAN.

SO I THINK THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE THAT STENY HOYER'S SEAT WILL BECOME HELD BY WILL BE HELD BY AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT CONGRESS.

AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S -- THERE IS A LARGE VOTER BASE OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THAT CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

AND THE DISTRICT WASN'T DRAWN TO INCLUDE THEM ALTOGETHER NECESSARILY.

BUT I THINK THAT IS THE WAY IT PLAYS OUT.

THE KEY DIFFERENCE IS YOU GOT A LOT OF WHITE VOTERS IN MARYLAND WHO ARE DEMOCRATS, AND WILLING TO VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE.

A DIFFERENT ANIMAL WHEN YOU GET INTO STATES LIKE TEXAS OR ALABAMA OR MISSISSIPPI.

A LOT LESS MORE RACIAL BLOCK VOTING FROM A WHITE REPUBLICAN PERSPECTIVE DOWN THERE.

WE'RE STILL HOPING TO MOVE THE INDEPENDENTS BUT WE'LL SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT.

>> Jeff: CONGRESSMAN GLENN IVEY WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> Jeff: TO THE STATE'S MOST EXPENSIVE CONGRESSIONAL RACE FORMER SIXTH DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE DAVID TRONE IS SPENDING BIG.

THAT SEAT IS HELD BY FELLOW DEMOCRAT APRIL I WILL McCLAIN DELANEY.

WE INVITED HER TO JOIN US IN THE FUTURE.

>> Mr.

TRONE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

TELL US WHY DO YOU WANT YOUR OLD JOB BACK?

>> JEFF, THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.

I APPRECIATE IT.

FRANKLY, THE PERSON THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD TAKEOVER AND REPRESENT THE SIXTH DISTRICT HAS TURNED INTO A REPUBLICAN IN MANY SENSES AND THAT SHE IS CONSISTENTLY VOTED WITH THE REPUBLICAN MAGA TRUMP GROUP 22% OF THE TIME.

AND.

>> Jeff: IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A BIG NUMBER, IF I CAN JUMP IN?

>> 22%.

JAMIE RASKIN WAS 1.8%.

IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT VOTES SHE IS THE ONLY MARYLANDER ONLY ONE ONLY DEMOCRAT TO VOTE IN ALL THESE OTHER VOTES.

SO 22 COMPARED TO LESS THAN 2% THAT IS A BIG NUMBER.

>> Jeff: THE DELANEY CAMPAIGN IS TOUTING A POLL THAT HAS HER UP 15.

IT IS A SMALL SIZE BUT THAT IS A LARGE NUMBER.

HOW DO YOU THINK THIS RACE STANDS?

>> WE'RE CLEARLY AHEAD IN THE RACE THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

WE HAVE THE TOP TWO POLLSTERS IN THE COUNTRY.

WORKING FOR US.

WE LIKE TO JUST WORK WITH THE REAL NUMBERS AND NOT TILT A POLE ANY WHICH WAY.

THAT NUMBER IS BS BUT IT'S ONE OF THE MANY LIES THAT IS COMING OUT OF THEIR CAMPAIGN.

WE MADE IT A FOCUS, JEFF, TO FOCUS ON THE VOTES.

THE VOTES ARE THE VOTES.

NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.

AND THAT IS WHERE WE OUGHT TO STAY AND NOT MAKING STUFF UP AND USING SCREEN SHOTS AND JUST TOTALLY FLAT OUTLYING ABOUT THINGS LIKE I.C.E.

>> ON THAT SUBJECT, YOUR ADS SAY THAT REPRESENTATIVE DELANEY, VOTED WITH ON IMMIGRATION AND HER CAMPAIGN SAYS IT WAS TRONE THAT VOTED FOR $200 MILLION TO FUND TRUMP'S I.C.E.

WHILE APRILLE NEVER VOTED A PENNY FOR I.C.E.

CAN YOU CLEAR THAT UP?

>> THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS AND THEY SHOULD CHECK THAT AND FIND OUT THAT $200 MILLION WAS JOE BIDEN, NANCY PELOSI AND JAMIE RASKIN'S I.C.E.

IT WAS A DEMOCRAT BILL IN 2024 WHEN DEMOCRATS WROTE THE CHECK FOR I.C.E.

HER VOTES FOR I.C.E.

ARE FIRST OF ALL, THE LAY KIN REILLY ACT WHICH GAVE I.C.E.

TO BUILD THE FACILITY IN WILLIAMSPORT THAT THEY HAVE PURCHASED.

IT GAVE I.C.E.

OVER A BILLION DPRARS IN FUNDING TO CONTINUE THEIR MASS DEPORTATION SCHEME WITH NO REFORMS, NO RESTRICTIONS.

AND THAT WAS SEPTEMBER OF 2025 VOTE.

EVERYBODY KNEW WHAT I.C.E.

WAS DOING BY SEPTEMBER OF 2025.

SO HER EXCUSE THAT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING, THAT DOESN'T HOLD WATER EITHER.

>> Jeff: SO YOU HELD THE SEAT FOR THREE TERMS BEFORE YOU RAN FOR THE SENATE.

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WERE YOUR TOP ACCOMPLISH THES IN THAT TIME?

>> WE WERE RANKED THE MOST EFFECTIVE MEMBER OF THE MARYLAND DELEGATION.

SO NUMBER ONE, MOST EFFECTIVE BY OUTSIDE GROUPS AND OVER TWO TIMES MORE EFFECTIVE THAN THE SECOND MOST EFFECTIVE MEMBER OF THE DELEGATION.

WE THINK THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT AND IT TIES INTO PASSING LAWS, GETTING THEM TO THE FINISH LINE, OUR TEAM TOGETHER ON ADDICTION AND MENTAL HEALTH AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE WE PASSED 27 LAWS TO THE FINISH LINE.

SO HIGHLY PRODUCTIVE ON GETTING LAWS PASSED TO THE FINISH LINE BY OPPONENTS NEVER PASSED A LAW AND SHE HASN'T PASSED A POST OFFICE.

SECOND POINT IS BRINGING DOLLARS BACK TO THE DISTRICT.

I WAS ON THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.

I'M HOPEFUL I WILL GO BACK, CONFIDENT.

TO THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.

THAT IS WHERE ALL THE MONEY IS.

THAT IS WHERE ALL THE POWER IS.

AND WE BROUGHT BACK TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THE DISTRICT FOR CRISIS STABILIZATION CENTERS, FREDERICK, HAGERSTOWN, YOUTH CENTERS, FREDERICK, HAGERSTOWN, CUMBERLAND, OAK LAND.

YOU NAME IT STEM WORK.

SCIENCE GROUP FOR NEW INVESTMENTS FOR START UP TYPE AREAS.

WE BROUGHT HOME THE BACON AND THE THIRD AREA IS GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE.

WE TOOK CARE OF OUR CUSTOMERS, THE CONSTITUENTS OF THIS DISTRICT WHETHER IT WAS WITH THEY HAD PROBLEMS WITH UNEMPLOYMENT, V.A., VISAS, YOU NAME IT WE FIXED THE PROBLEMS.

I HAVE A 30-40 YEAR HISTORY OF FIXING PROBLEMS IN BUILDING AND BUILDING A BIG BUSINESS FROM ZERO TO THE BIGGEST RETAILER IN THE COUNTRY IN WINE AND SPIRITS AND I KNOW HOW TO FIX STUFF.

>> Jeff: YOUR SUCCESS ALLOWEED YOU TO SPEND $60 MILLION.

I RECEIVED A FUNDRAISING PITCH FROM THE DELANEY CAMPAIGN SAYING THAT YOU ARE PLANNING TO SPEND 50 MILLION ON THIS RACE WHICH I THINK WOULD MAKE IT THE MOST EXPENSIVE HOUSE DISTRICT RACE EVER IN THE COUNTRY.

WHAT NUMBER ARE YOU -- HOW BIG A CHECK ARE YOU WRITING?

>> I THINK FOLKS CAN LOOK AT WHAT THE ELECTION REPORTS AND WHAT WE HAVE PUT IN THE CAMPAIGN.

AND THE NUMBERS AROUND 15 MILLION DOLLARS.

WE PUT IN THIS CAMPAIGN.

DELANEY PROBABLY PUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY IN.

THE DELANEY'S MIGHT BE BILLIONAIRES THEMSELVES.

THEY TALK ABOUT MYSELF SUCCESS AND YES I'M SUCCESSFUL.

I DON'T ARGUE THAT.

AND I STARTED WITH NOTHING.

AND BECAUSE I'M SUCCESSFUL, I PAY FOR MY OWN CAMPAIGN, I DON'T TAKE LOBBYISTS MONEY, I DON'T TAKE PAC MONEY THE DELANEYS ARE BILLIONAIRES AND TAKE ALL THE PAC MONEY AND BIG PHARMA AND ALL THE BIG DEFENSE COMPANIES LOCKHEED, BOEING, THEY TAKE COMCAST, VERIZON, THEY TAKE THE MONOPOLIES THEY TAKE EVERYBODY'S MONEY AND THEY TRADE STOCKS.

Mr.

DELANEY TRADES STOCKS ON BEHALF OF HIM AND HIS FAMILY ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

>> Jeff: THE CAMPAIGN HAYES YOU ARE MISLEADING VOTERS BY IMPLYING YOU ARE THE INCUMBENT SAYING REELECT DAVID TRONE YOU HAVE BEEN ELECTED BEFORE BUT IS IT A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING?

>> LET THEM COMPLAIN.

WE'VE BEEN THE INCUMBENT AND THIS DISTRICT FOR SIX YEARS.

AND WE ARE BEING REELECTED.

NO ONE SAID THE WORD INCUMBENT WE SAID REELECT.

>> Jeff: IS THERE ANY RISK IN THIS DISTRICT THAT TWO DEMOCRATS BEATING EACH OTHER UP IN THE PRIMARY SURPRESSES TUSH OUT IN THE GENERAL?

TRUMP LOST IN MARYLAND BY 30 SOME POINTS.

BUT VICE-PRESIDENT HARRIS ONLY ONE THIS DISTRICT BY 6.

COULD IT WINDUP BEING COMPETITIVE IN NOVEMBER?

>> THERE IS NO CHANCE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A COMPETITIVE DISTRICT.

THIS ELECTION IS IT.

IT DETERMINES WHO YOU WILL HAVE IN DECEMBER THAT CAN BE A FIGHTER FOR TRUMP, STAND UM AGAINST TRUMP.

SHE HAS NOT STOOD UP SHE HAS ROLLED OVER.

ROLLED OVER CONSISTENTLY 22% OF THE TIME.

JUST GIVEN UP GOING ALONG TO GET ALONG WITH REPUBLICAN MAGA.

WE NEED A FIGHTER.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN HER VOTING RECORD 22%.

THAT'S THE NUMBER TO REMEMBER.

>> Jeff: DAVID TRONE WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> JEFF APPRECIATE IT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> Jeff: WE HAVE INVITED MS.

DELANEY TO JOIN US IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND THAT IS "STATE CIRCLE" FOR THIS WEEK.

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