THIS PROGRAM IS MADE BY MPT TO ENRICH THE DIVERSE COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT OUR STATE AND IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE GENEROUS SUPPORT OF OUR MEMBERS.

THANK YOU.

CLOSED CAPTIONING HAS BEEN MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY MARYLAND RELAY, EMPOWERING THOSE WHO ARE DEAF, HARD OF HEARING OR SPEECH DISABLED TO STAY CONNECTED BY PHONE.

[♪♪] CONNECTING MARYLANDERS TO THEIR GOVERNMENT, THIS IS "STATE CIRCLE".

>> Jeff: WELCOME TO "STATE CIRCLE".

THE VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN.

DID WE BRING ABREU TSUNAMI AND HEADING CONTROL.

CONGRESS TO DEMOCRATS IN A REBUKE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.

HERE IN MARYLAND, GOOD AFTERNOON WES MOORE HAS BEEN IF EWHETHER HE CANNED WITH THIS LANDSLIDE FOUR YEARS OCTOBER.

ONALITY QUESTION NUMBER 3, VOTERS APPROVING REMOVING ANY LIMITATIONS TO THE STATE CONSTITUTION ON FUTURE CHANGES TO CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS.

AND DESPITE THE NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC WAVE, IN MARYLAND'S POSSIBLY SOON TO BE REDRAWN FIRST DISTRICT, REPUBLICAN ANDY HARRIS TURNED BACK A CHALLENGE FROM DAN SWARTD.

SWARTSZ SWART.

>> OUR NEWSMAKER IS MARYLAND'S NEWEST CONGRESSMAN ELECT, ADRIAN BOAFO THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> Jeff: CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR VICTORY IT IS THE MORNING AFTER ELECTION DAY AND IT'S FRESH.

HOW ARE YOU FEELING?

>> YOU KNOW, JEFF, I FEEL GOOD IT IS SURREAL.

I TELL PEOPLE MY STORY BOOK TO BE A MEMBER OF CONGRESS AND THAT WAS NOT IN THE PLANNINGS OF ANYTHING AND I'M GRATEFUL TO THE CONSTITUENTS OF THE FIFTH DISTRICT TO AFFORD ME THIS OPPORTUNITY.

JEFF, I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT WE ARE SEEING HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

YOU'VE SEEN US TAKE BACK THE HOUSE IN A MARGIN OF 250.

WE TOOK BACK THE SENATE AMERICANS HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT HOW DEEPLY UNPOPULAR AND DISTRUSTFUL THEY ARE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION AND IT'S OUR JOB TO DELIVER FOR PEOPLE.

>> Jeff: WE'LL COME BACK TO WHAT CONGRESS NEEDS TO DO.

YOU'VE BEEN IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE AS A DELEGATE.

YOU ARE A YOUNG MAN YOU ARE SUCCEEDING A LEGEND IN STENY HOYER.

TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF.

>> I'M THE SON OF IMMIGRANTSES FROM GHANA WEST AFRICA.

I AM A PRINCE GEORGE'SIAN THROUGH AND THROUGH I WENT TO SCHOOL TWO MILES AWAY AND WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF BALTIMORE AND GOT INTO THE LEGISLATURE.

I AM A KID WHO WAS LIKE MANY PEOPLE IN PRINCIPAL I PRINCIPAL COUNTY INSPIRED BY FEDERAL WORKERS AND DECIDED TO GET INTO THIS WORK BECAUSE OF THEM.

TO BE IN THIS POSITION HAS BEEN THE MOST SURREAL EXPERIENCE AND I'M JUST READY 0 GET TO WORK.

>> Jeff: HOW SHOULD FAMILY TAKEN ALL THIS?

THE NEW AMERICANS SUDDENLY THEY WILL SEE YOU SWORN IN IN THE UNITED STATES CAPITOL?

>> THAT IS' THE AMERICAN DREAM.

THIS STORY WOULD NOT HAPPEN ANYWHERE ELSE BUT AMERICA.

I HOPE MY STORY IS A REMINDER OF THE AMERICAN DREAM.

WE WATCHED THE PARTY IN GLENN IVEY IN GREENBELT AND MY MOTHER FOR THE FIRST TIME I COULD TELL SHE RECOGNIZED HER SON WAS GOING TO BE A MEMBER OF CONGRESS.

ANYONE IMMIGRATES TO THE COUNTRY FOR A BETTER LIFE AND HOPES THEIR CHILDREN SUCCEEDS IN THE COUNTRY.

TO BE IN THE POSITION I AM AND TAKE THE OATH ON JANUARY 3 WILL BE A BIG MOMENT FOR MY FAMILY.

THEY ARE PROUD AND MY JOB IS TO DELIVER FOR THEM IN THIS MOMENT.

>> Jeff: THINKING ABOUT THE RACIAL ASPECT TO THE NATIONAL ELECTION.

NEW GOVERNORSHIPS, MORE DIVERSITY IN ALL SORTS OF POSITIONS AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE MARYLAND CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION, WE WILL NOW HAVE FOUR BLACK MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE DELEGATION OF 10.

THAT IS A BIG DEAL.

>> IT IS A HUGE DEAL, ESPECIALLY IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE MOMENT WE ARE IN AS A COUNTRY, THE SUPREME COURT GUTTED THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND THE COUNTRY STEPPED UP IN GEORGIA AND WISCONSIN HERE IN MARYLAND BY ELECTING THE YOUNGEST PERSON OF COLOR TO EVER SERVE IN CONGRESS IN MYSELF.

THE COUNTRY AND THE NATION STEPPED UP AND SAID NO WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET THAT HAPPEN.

AND REPUBLICANS TRYING TO RIG THE MAPS IN ALABAMA VOTERS SAID NO.

IN THIS MOMENT IT IS A PRIVILEGE AND HONOR TO BE PART OF A HISTORY MAKING CLASS AND BE A HISTORY MAKER MYSELF.

ANCESTORS WOULD FEEL BAD IF WE LET THEM DOWN AND MAKE SURE THAT FORT THEY FOUGHT FOR BECOMES IN LAW IN A REAL WAY.

>> Jeff: TO THE EXTENT THAT THE REPUBLICAN GERRYMANDERING ATTEMPTS BACKFIRED, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE STATE OF MARYLAND?

ALSO ON THE BALLOT QUESTION 3 WHICH SORT OF OPENS THE DOOR FOR A NEW STATE CONGRESSIONAL MAP.

PART OF THE QUESTION IS HOW MIGHT THAT AFFECT YOUR FIFTH DISTRICT IF THE ONLY REPUBLICAN DISTRICT IS REDRAWN TO SPLIT UP THE REPUBLICANS AND ELECT A DEMOCRAT BUT ALSO IS THAT A GOOD IDEA?

>> LOOK, I HOPE WE GET INTO CONGRESS, JEFFERIES AS THE SPEAKER AND WE PASS IT ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO MAKE SURE THAT REDISTRICTING IS OUT OF THE HANDS OF POLITICIANS.

IN MARYLAND WE OPENED THE DOOR BECAUSE OF VOTERS TO THIS POSSIBILITY.

I HOPE WE START THIS PARTISAN REDISTRICTING AND GO THROUGH A MODEL MORE ACCEPTABLE AND IT WILL MAKE POLITICS MORE PALATABLE FOR PEOPLE.

THESE ARE BLUE DISTRICTS MARYLAND HAS A HUGE VOTER ADVANTAGE WE WOULD BE A BLUE STATE BUT THE VOTERS SAID WE WILL REACT IN DONALD TRUMP REACTS.

HERE IS WHAT I WILL SAY.

IT IS UP TO THE STATE SENATE TO STEP UP.

THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE IN DECEMBER OF 2025, AND ALSO EARLIER THIS YEAR PASSED MAPS.

WE WILL NEED THE SENATE TO REACT SWIFTLY IF DONALD TRUMP TRIES TO GO BACK AT THIS AGAIN.

>> Jeff: DO YOU SEE THAT AS A CURRENT MEMBER OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE DO YOU THINK THAT HAPPENS IN THE 27 SESSION?

>> I THINK THAT THEY HAVE A $4 BILLION DEFICIT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND THAT IS PRIORITY NUMBER ONE.

WE WILL REACT IF DONALD TRUMP TRIES TO DO SOMETHING QUICKLY AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

>> Jeff: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FIFTH DISTRICT WHICH HUGS THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA YOU HAD A LOT OF FEDERAL EMPLOYEES IMPACTED BY THE TRUMP CUTS AND THE TRUMP LAYOFFS.

TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THE IMPACT AND WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

>> 85,000 FEDERAL WORKERS IN MARYLAND THE MOST OF ANY OTHER CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IN THE COUNTRY, 30,000 OF WHOM HAVE BEEN MADE OFF THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

I TOLD PEOPLE FEDERAL WORKERS ARE UP WITH, TWO AND THREE WE HAVE TO REBUILD THE CIVIL WORKFORCE AND INVESTIGATE THOSE AND WHAT WENT ON AND WHAT WENT WRONG PARTICULARLY ESPECIALLY WITH A LOT OF THE ILLEGAL FIRINGS AND CREATE A PROCESS IF YOU ARE A CIVIL WORKER OR FEDERAL WORKER WHO WANTS TO COME BACK TO WORK YOU SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SUCH.

IT'S HUGE PRIORITY FOR ME.

AND HOYER WAS THE VOICE OF FEDERAL WORKERS IN CONGRESS AND I HOPE PEOPLE CAN SAY ADRIAN BOAFO WAS, TOO.

>> Jeff: THOUGHTS ON TRUMP?

I SAW A POLL OF DEMOCRATIC VOTERS SAYING IT WAS LIKE 85% WANT TO SEE HIM IMPEACHED AGAIN.

WOULD YOU BE A YES VOTE ON THAT?

FIVMENT WE WENT THROUGH ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT I WOULD BE A YES VOTE.

HE IS UNPOPULAR AND THE AMERICANS DELIVERED US A VICTORY IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE IT WOULD BE FOOLISH TO FORGET WE HAVE TO DELIVER FOR PEOPLE.

FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS THE ANTI-TRUMP PARTY AND WHILE WE WILL PROVIDE OVERSIGHT AND ANY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY WE TRY TO SOLVE ISSUES FOR PEOPLE.

I BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT IS UNDER ROUSE AND I WILL NOT SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON HIM OR DECISION TRACKED BY HIS ANTICS PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING AND THEY NEED A CONGRESS THAT IS GOING TO ACT.

>> Jeff: HOW ABOUT ELON MUSK?

YOU ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO INVESTIGATING ELON MUSK?

>> I DON'T THINK I AM THE ONLY ONE AND FRANKLY IT IS NOT MY TOP PRIORITY TO INVESTIGATE ELON MUSK.

WHAT IS MY TOP PRIORITY, AGAIN IS DELIVERING FOR PEOPLE.

WHAT I WILL SAY ABOUT Mr.

MUSK IS THAT DOGE AS A WHOLE WAS A TERRIBLE THING-FOR-MARYLANDERS.

NOT JUST ELON BUT RUSS VAUT PEOPLE AT THE CENTER OF THE DOGE CUTS HAVE TO ANSWER FOR WHAT HAPPENED AND I HOPE THE COMMITTEE GETS TO WORK ON THAT.

>> Jeff: AMONG THE FRESHMEN CLASS OF CONGRESS YOU HAVE AN INTERESTING BACKGROUND YOU ARE A YOUNG MAN.

BUT YOU HAVE EXPERIENCES AS A STATE LEGISLATOR AND EXPERIENCE AS STAFFER YOU'VE BEEN A LOBBYIST ON CAPITOL HILL DO YOU KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO RUN YOUR OFFICE?

WHAT COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENT WOULD BE DESIRABLE AND WHAT LEGISLATION YOU MIGHT WRITE?

>> WE ARE GETTING STARTED TODAY I HAVE BEEN UP FOR A LONGTIME STARTING TO WORK ON WHAT THIS OFFICE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

I'VE HAD A 360 VIEW OF WASHINGTON I KNOW THE GOOD, BAD AND UGLY HOW IT OPERATES.

I WANT OUR OFFICE TO BE REFLECTIVE OF THIS DISTRICT AND RESPONSIVE ON COMMUNICATION TO CONSTITUENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE NO MATTER IF YOU VOTED FOR ME OR NOT ARE DELIVERING ON ISSUES FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES.

BUT I TRULY UNDERSTAND HOW WASHINGTON WORKS I'M HEADING THERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS TO HOPEFULLY DELIVER FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS DISTRICT.

>> Jeff: AND YOU WILL HAVE A SHORT DRIVE?

>> 35-40 MINUTES AND I MAY HOP ON THE METRO AND HEAD IN THAT WAY.

>> Jeff: VERY GOOD.

CONGRESSMAN ELECT ADRIAN BOAFO SIR WE CONGRATULATE YOU AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, JEFF.

[♪♪] AND NOW JOINING US ARE TWO PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL SCIENCE, FLAVIO HICKEL FROM WASHINGTON COLLEGE AND JOSEPH DIETRICH FROM TOWSON UNIVERSITY.

GENTLEMEN WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

LET'S STARTED ON THE EASTERN SHORE PROFESSOR, THE BLUE WAVE DIDN'T QUITE REACH THE SHORE AT LEAST IN TERMS OF UNSEATING ANDY HARRIS MAYBE SHOES GOT A LITTLE WET YOU MIGHT SAY?

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

THE FIRST DISTRICT IS UNIQUE AND THE BLUE WAVE RIPPLING ACROSS RUBY RED DISTRICTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ANDY HARRIS DOES SURVIVE.

IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT WHILE HE WON, HE WON LESS COMFORTABLE THAN HE OFTEN DOES.

AS OF NOW HE IS UP BY LIKE NINE POINTS IN THE TALLY.

YEAH, HE SURVIVED AND THAT RAISES QUESTIONS.

WHY?

GIVEN THAT HE HAD A DISTASS ROUSE DEBATE AND AFTERMATH THAT MADE NEWS LOCALLY AND NATIONAL NEWS, RIGHT?

FOR ME, I FEEL LIKE THE ANSWER TO THAT IS GLOBALIZATION.

I THINK IN THIS ELECTION, GENERAL REPUBLICANS WERE VERY DEMOBILIZED.

BUT I THINK IN THE FIRST DISTRICT PROBABLY LARGELY ON ACCOUNT I THINK OF BALLOT QUESTION 3 REPUBLICANS HAD AN EXTRA REASON TO TURNOUT THE VOTE AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIG EXPLANATION WHY HE WAS ABLE TO WITH STAN THIS PRESSURE.

AND -- SORRY.

I DO ARE IS A COUPLE STUDENTS THAT WORKED ON THE CAMPAIGN AND THEY HAVE TOLD ME THAT ONE OF THE SCHWARTZ AND THOUGH SCHWARTZ CAME OUT AGAINST BALLOT 3 ONE OF THE MOST COMMON COMPLAINTS WERE QUESTION FROM CONSTITUENTS WHILE CANVASING WAS ABOUT BALLOT QUESTION 3.

THIS REALLY IS THE BIG EXPLANATION NOR HARRIS.

>> Jeff: PROFESSOR JOSEPH DIETRICH ON QUESTION 3 YOUR THOUGHTS AND BARRIERS TO THE STATE OF MARYLAND JOINING THE GERRYMANDERING WAVE ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED.

YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT CAMPAIGN AND WHAT HAPPENS GOING FORWARD?

>> I THOUGHTED IT WAS A GOOD INTERESTING CAMPAIGN IN THE LAST FEW DAYS.

WE SAW FORMER PRESIDENT OBAMA IN AND ULTIMATELY IT PROVES TO BE UNNECESSARY WITH DEMOCRATS TAKING MORE THAN 250, 254 SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT THIS POINT.

SEATS IN THE HOUSE.

OVERWHELMING IN THE SENATE.

I SUPPOSE THE BEST TAKEAWAY FROM IT IS THAT IT CLARIFIES THE PROCESS HERE IN MARYLAND.

SO IT DOES PRODUCE A TECHNICAL REVISION.

SO THAT WE KNOW BETTER IF WE WANT TO ENGAGE IN THIS.

BUT I DO THINK IT RAISES A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE DEMOCRATS IN THE STATE SHOULD SPEND THE POLITICAL CAPITAL TO ENGAGE IN THIS PROCESS.

LIKE I SAID IT SEEMS TO BE HOLY UNNECESSARY.

AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE A DECISION WE WILL HAVE TO MAKEOVER THE NEXT SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS.

>> Jeff: THE IDEA IS IT WOULD BE HARDER TO SPIN WHY WE ARE DOING THIS GERRYMANDER NOW THAT DEMOCRATS HAVE THIS MAJORITY IN CONGRESS.

ON THE OTHER HAND, I READ ONCE THAT IN THE THEATER WHEN A KNIFE IS PLACED ON THE STAGE ON A TABLE OR SOMETHING IN ACT ONE BY THE END OF THE PLAY IT'S BEEN USED.

SO HOW CAN THEY NOT USE IT?

>> WELL, I THINK THAT'S IT.

GIVEN THIS ENORMOUS POLITICAL TOOL THEY SPENTSD A LOT OF CAPITAL TO GET THAT TOOL.

I EXPECT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO WANT TO USE IT.

>> ESPECIALLY THINKING ABOUT WES MOORE AND FUTURE ASPIRATIONS WHICH IS YET TO BE DETERMINED EVERYONE ASSUMES HE IS KEEPING OPTIONS OPEN.

HE PUT A LOT OF CAPITAL INTO THIS GOT OBAMA TO HELP OUT AND PROPEL IT FORWARD.

I ASSUME HE HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN SEE TO GO THROUGH.

IT RAISES QUESTIONS WHETHER THEY SHOULD PERSONALLY AS MUCH AS IT IS JUST, I SEE GERRYMANDERING AS SORT OF THE POISONOUS FRUIT OF OUR DEMOCRACY AND OPPOSE REPUBLICAN EFFORTS I WAS TROUBLED BY THE DEMOCRATIC TACTIC THE FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE ON THIS.

IT FEELS LIKE PENNY WISE POUND FOOLISH I WAS ENCOURAGED WES MOORE SAYING THIS IS LIKE A STOPGAP UNTIL WE CAN GET NATIONAL REFORMS.

PERHAPS THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NATIONALLY TO ACTUALLY PURSUE REFORM.

RATHER THAN DOING THE GERRYMANDERING IN MARYLAND MIGHT WE SEE SOME SORT OF REFORM NATIONALLY OR IN MARYLAND.

>> Jeff: EITHER OF YOU, WHAT MIGHT THAT LOOK LIKE?

EVERY POLITICIAN YOU TALK TO IS AGAINST GERRYMANDERING RIGHT UP UNTIL THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT AND THEN THEY DO IT.

HOW WOULD THEY EVER LEAVE THEIR HANDS OFF THAT PROCESS?

>> I THINK THERE IS A CAUTIONARY TALE THAT COMES OUT OF THIS BLUE WAVE IT DIDN'T WORK.

THE FOLKS WHO PUSHED IT THE HARDEST, GOT HURT FROM IT THE MOST.

AND THAT SHOULD GIVE PAUSE TO ANYBODY LOOKING TO CONTINUALLY PURSUE THIS.

I THINK IT ALSO RAISES THE SPECTER OF THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE IN 28 AND IF A DEMOCRAT WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY TWO SUPREME COURT JUSTICES BOTH ALITO AND THOMAS HAVE SAID THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF RETIRING TO SECURE A LONG-TERM REPUBLICAN IN THEIR SPOTS THE RAISES SHOULD A DEMOCRAT WIN IN 28 THERE COULD BE TWO NEW SUPREME COURT JUSTICES.

AND THAT CHANGE VERY MUCH CHANGES THE SPECTER OF WHAT THE VOTERRING RIGHT ACTS MEANS ABOUT NEW CHALLENGES, AND SO I THINK THERE IS A LONG-TERM GOING OUT AS FAR AS 2032, CALCULATION HERE FOR WHETHER OR NOT PURSUIT OF GERRYMANDERING AND ALL OF THIS IS REALLY VIABLE.

>> Jeff: PROFESSOR, YOU BOTH HAVE A RESEARCH INTEREST IN STUDYING DIFFERENT GROUPS OF VOTERS AND POLITICIANS RACIAL GROUPS, ETHNIC GROUPS THIS WAS A BIG YEAR FOR IMPROVING DIVERSITY NOT ONLY ON CAPITOL HILL BUT STATE CAPITOLS.

>> YEAH.

I THINK ONE OF THE BIG TAKEAWAYS HERE IS THAT DIVERSITY AND D.E.I.

FOUGHT BACK.

INITIATIVES TO CHALLENGE ALL OF THIS THAT CAME FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, MOBILIZED VOTERS.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF THIS.

WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE MOST DIVERSE CLASS IN CONGRESS' HISTORY.

WE'RE GOING TO SEYMORE DIVERSE STATE HOUSES MORE GOVERNORSHIPS.

ACROSS THE BOARD SPLIT IN EVERY DIRECTION AND I THINK THAT'S INTERESTING.

I ALSO HISPANIC VOTERS CAME BACK TO THE DEMOCRATS.

NOW WHETHER THAT IS PERMANENT CONDITION OR LATINOS STAY IN PLAY IS INTERESTING.

I THINK IT COULD BE A REGIONAL THING POTENTIALLY DIFFERENT POCKETS OF LATINO VOTERS AROUND THE COUNTRY VOTING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS JUST WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT-AND-SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT.

YOUNG VOTERS CAME OUT IN DROVES.

MUCH HIGHER TURNOUT AMONG YOUNGER VOTERS THAN WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS.

33% SHIFTED BACK TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT IS FANTASTIC FOR THE DEMOCRATS.

REALLY WHAT THEY NEEDED TO SEE.

SO I MEAN A LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKDOWNS HERE JUST DECIDING THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAD THE MESSAGE THAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR.

>> Jeff: I WANTED TO GET YOU IN ON THIS, TOO, HISPANIC VOTERS SPECIALTY OF YOURS WHEN IT MOVED IN TRUMP'S DIRECTION TWO YEARS AGO IT'S NOT LIKE HE WON THE HISPANIC VOTE BUT HE LOST LESS BADLY IS THAT RIGHT?

AND THEN THE SHIFT BACK NOW?

>> YES, THE STORY FOR 2016 AND 2020 WAS THIS GRADUAL EROSION OF LATINO SUPPORT FOR DEMOCRATS.

IT WAS A MUCH BIGGER SWING IN 2024.

THE STORY IS A REVERT BACK TO THE MAIN FOR THE GROUPS THAT YOUNG VOTERS, BLACK VOTERS, LATINO VOTERS THEY REVERTED BACK TO WHAT HAS BEEN THEIR HISTORIC LEVEL.

AND I THINK HE IS CORRECT THAT THIS DOES REFLECT THE PERCEPTION OF ATTACKS ON THEIR SORT OF IDENTITY.

CERTAINLY IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SOUTHERN BLACK MOBILIZATION A LOT OF THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO REDISTRICTING EFFORTS AND WHAT APPEARED TO THEM TO BE RACIALLY MOTIVATED FOR MANY LATINO VOTERS IT IS A SENSE THAT THE I.C.E.

ENFORCEMENT TOOK A DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAN THEY MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT WHEN THEY VOTED FOR TRUMP.

IT WAS MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE AND THEY SORT OF REBELLED AGAINST IT.

IT IS A REVERT BACK TO THE MAIN.

I THINK IN 2024 LATINOS IN PARTICULAR, I THINK THERE WERE A LOT OF VOTERS THAT FELT LIKE HE WOULD NOT GO AS FAR AS PEOPLE ASSUMED AND IT WAS OKAY THEN TO VOTE ON THE ECONOMY.

THEY FELT THEY HAD A PERMISSION STRUCTURE TO VOTE FOR TRUMP AND IGNORE THE ANTI-IMMIGRATION RHETORIC.

I THINK THE EVENTS OF THE LAST TWO YEARS SHATTERED THAT FOR MANY AND THEY HAVE REVERTED BACK TO THE MAIN.

THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A SOLID THIRD OF LATINOS THAT VOTED REPUBLICAN.

MY OWN RESEARCH LOOKS AT LATINO RESENTMENT OF IMMIGRANTS.

AND I SHOW THAT THAT IS ROUGHLY A THIRD OF LATINOS.

THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME THAT ARE NOT GOING TO GO TO THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE.

FOR THE OTHERS THAT WERE TEMPORARILY MOVED TO TRUMP THEY SWUNG BACK HARD.

>> Jeff: YOU BOTH MENTIONED YOUNG VOTERS, MOTIVATED, ENERGIZED, COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE ECONOMY.

YOU LOOK ACROSS THE OCEAN AND YOU SEE YOUNG PEOPLE DEMONSTRATING RIOTING IN FRANCE, AND HERE, MAYBE IT'S THE SYSTEM DESIGN, MAYBE BECAUSE WE HAVE NATIONAL ELECTIONS EVERY TWO YEARS, THERE'S KIND OF ANOTHER PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> ISN'T IT NICE IT HAS A RESTORATIVE FEELING THAT THE RESULTS HERE SHOW THAT OUR DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM IS NOT BROKEN.

THAT THE PROCESS STILL CAN WORK.

AND MAYBE LIFTS THE NATIONAL MOOD A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF THE TAKEAWAYS OUT OF ALL THIS AS WELL.

>> Jeff: BEFORE WE GO GIVE A CAMPAIGN ADVICE TO GOVERNOR WES MOORE IF HE WANTS TO BE IN THE CONVERSATION FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT, WHICH APPEARS LIKELY.

WHAT SHOULD HE BE DOING NOW?

>> I MEAN IF IT WERE ME ONE OF THE BIG THINGS VOTERS ARE LOOKING FOR, LIKE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR LIKE EFFICIENCY FOR GOVERNMENT TO WORK TO DO THINGS TO HAVE REASON TO HOPE THAT THINGS CAN BE BETTER.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE GOVERNMENT HASN'T WORKED.

AS GOVERNOR OF A DEMOCRATIC STATE, THE BEST THING HE CAN DO IS START PRODUCE MORE RESULTS.

>> I WOULD ONLY ADD TO THAT THAT STAYING ON THIS ENGAGING MESSAGE ON THIS OUTREACH THIS NOTION OF SHOWING YOUNG ENTHUSIASM.

AND THAT IS ONE OF WES MOORE ATTRIBUTES IS THAT FRANKLY HE IS YOUNGER THAN MANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THAT CONVERSATION.

AND I THINK I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU AMONG MY STUDENTS THEY LOVE THAT ASPECT OF HIM.

>> Jeff: OUR THANKS TO JOSEPH DIETRICH AND FLAVIO HICKEL.

>> IF THIS FITS MY PERSONALITY REALLY WELL, I AM SUPER CREATIVE AND I LOVE TO LEAD.

>> SHE STARTED HER CLOTHING SHOP SIX YEARS AGO IN A CONVERTED SCHOOL BUS.

TODAY SHE OWNS TWO STORES ONE IN HAGERSTOWN AND THE OTHER A NEW SHOP IN DOWNTOWN FREDERICK.

GORDON OPENED DOORS IN STEP OFFERING SIZE INCLUSIVE CLOTHING MADE OF NATURAL FIBERS AND ORGANIC MATERIALS.

>> WE'VE HAD AMAZING FOOT TRAFFIC AMAZING RESPONSE TO THE KIND OF BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE HERE WITH THE NATURAL FIBERS.

>> SHE IS AYOUNG THE WOMEN DRIVING THE STATE'S START UP GROWTH A NEW REPORT FROM THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE WOMEN ACCOUNT FOR 58% OF NEW BUSINESSES ESTABLISHED IN THE STATE FOR GARDEN BELT THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE?

>> BALANCING MOTHERHOOD AND BUSINESS OWNING.

BECAUSE BEING THE OWNER OF THE BUSINESS AND STILL BEING A SMALL BUSINESS, I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING ALMOST EVERY PART OF THE BUSINESS WHILE ALSO HOME SCHOOLING MY CHILDREN AND MAKING SURE I'M PRESENT.

>> THE COMPTROLLER SAYS THE STATE IS COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING FEMALE ENTREPRENEURS.

>> SO ACCESS CAPITAL AND SCALE UP AND NAVIGATE PROCUREMENT CHALLENGES AND ACCESS CAPITAL MARKETS.

>> THE REPORT SHOWS HOW VITAL WOMEN ARE TO THE WORKFORCE WHILE MAKING UP 51.6% OF THE POPULATION, WOMEN ACCOUNT FOR 80% OF EMPLOYMENT IN HEALTHCARE AND 67 IN EDUCATION SERVICES.

EVEN SO, THE DATA ALSO SHOWS... >> WOMEN CONTINUE TO EARN LESS THAN MEN IN EVERY ECONOMIC LEVEL TWO EXAMPLES, FOLKS AGES 25-64 WITH A BACHELOR'S DEGREE OR HIGHER THERE IS A 21,000 DOLLAR GAP BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN.

>> SHE BELIEVES THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE REASON WHY IS MORE WOMEN ARE CHOOSING TO START THEIR OWN BUSINESSES.

>> THE REASON WE DO THESE REPORTS IS SO THAT OUR POLICYMAKERS, BUSINESS LEADERS, COMMUNITY LEADERS ACROSS THE STATE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW TO ENSURE THAT OUR ECONOMY IS WORKING IN THE MOST EFFICIENT AND BEST WAY IT CAN.

AND WE OFFER A FEW IDEAS I THINK FROM THIS TO SUPPORT WOMEN IN THE ECONOMY.

>> AS FOR GARDEN BELL.

>> IT'S VERY CHALLENGING TO START A BUSINESS.

AND FIND CAPITAL IF YOU DON'T HAVE CREDIT.

>> BUT SHE WILL NEVER STOP ENCOURAGING OTHER WOMEN TO FOLLOW THEIR DREAMS.

>> YOU CAN ALWAYS START A BUSINESS WITH VERY LITTLE OVERHEAD YOU CAN START A SHOP ON INSTAGRAM, SOCIAL MEDIA IS FREE FOR THE MOST PART AND THAT IS HOW WE GREW AN AUDIENCE.

IF YOU FEEL INSPIRED OR AMBITIOUS ABOUT A BUSINESS IDEA I WOULD SAY GO FOR IT.

>> I'M NANCY YAMADA FOR "STATE CIRCLE".

>> Jeff: AND THAT IS "STATE CIRCLE" FOR THIS WEEK.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.

WE'LL SEE YOU BACK MONDAY EVENING AT 7:00 P.M.

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