KATE SULLIVAN: Welcome to the definition of small town southern living.

And these two are the definition of hometown heroes.

BEN NAPIER: We care about renovating hometowns... ERIN NAPIER: Yeah.

BEN: ...then we have to support those towns.

KATE: What began as a passion for preservation not only put Laurel, Mississippi in the spotlight, but made Erin and Ben Napier household names.

KATE: How did you get your own TV show?

ERIN: Accidentally.

KATE: (Surprised) Really?

ERIN: Huge accident.

KATE: Tell me how.

ERIN: This whole thing shouldn't be happening.

This is a (whispering) big accident.

KATE: Today, Erin and Ben are taking me to their favorite restaurant in their favorite town to eat what they love and find out why they love it.

BEN: You like a cheeseburger?

KATE: I do.

KATE: I'm finding out how one DM turned into a hit TV show that has changed not only their community, but has rippled to other small towns across America.

ERIN: Can I tell you my secret?

KATE: Please.

ERIN: Every plan I ever made didn't work out.

I don't make plans anymore.

[Upbeat music] KATE: What's better in life than a bottle of wine, great food, and an amazing conversation?

My name is Kate Sullivan, and I am the host of To Dine For .

I'm a journalist, a foodie, a traveler with an appetite for the stories of people who are hungry for more: dreamers, visionaries, artists: those who hustle hard in the direction they love.

I travel with them to their favorite restaurant to hear how they did it.

This show is a toast to them and their American Dream.

To Dine For with Kate Sullivan is made possible by... ♪♪ FEMALE ANNOUNCER: We support the doers and dreamers.

Those working today toward a more secure tomorrow.

At American National, we're proud to help you make that future possible.

[Wine dribbling into glass] KATE: Hello everyone!

Today I'm in Laurel, Mississippi, on my way into Phillips Drive-In.

Think burgers, tater tots and shakes.

I am meeting entrepreneurs and creatives that have transformed this town.

I can't wait for you to meet Erin and Ben Napier.

KATE: Hi.

ERIN and BEN: [Crosstalk] Hello.

ERIN: Welcome to Laurel!

KATE: Thank you so much!

BEN: Welcome to PDI.

ERIN: Yes.

KATE: I am so thrilled to be here.

This is such a nostalgic spot.

ERIN: [Laughs] So, I figure you eat at fancy places.

KATE: Some.

Some not so much.

ERIN: Well, we went with not so much.

KATE: No, you went with what you love.

BEN: That's right.

ERIN: It's a rite for us.

KATE: Laurel, Mississippi checks all of the boxes for a classic southern small town.

This former lumber town has 18,000 people living on its sixteen square miles.

It's the kind of place where everyone knows everyone, and everyone knows Phillips Drive-In.

FRANCES PHILLIPS MURPHY: Well, it's just a family place.

It opened up in 1948, and people came here when they were young.

And they've come here ever since.

They bring their children and then they bring their grandchildren, and now they're bringing their great-grandchildren.

KATE: Known as PDI's to the locals, Phillips Drive-In isn't fancy, and it isn't chasing trends.

But if you're looking for a juicy cheeseburger, a thick milkshake, and perfectly fried-up onion rings, it is the place for you.

FRANCES: It's just the same as it's always been.

All the recipes are the same.

It doesn't change.

They add a few things every now and then, but it's pretty much just the same thing as when it started.

KATE: PDI's has been the town hangout for so long, they now host an annual reunion where generations of loyal customers come from all over the country for a burger and a cherry Sprite, and a flashback to the good old days.

FRANCES: You know, it started out there were very few places to eat in Laurel, and now there's a whole choice.

And people still choose to come here.

So it's very important to us to keep it here and keep it going.

KATE: It just makes sense to meet Erin and Ben Napier here.

After all, their shared love for hometowns is what has changed their lives.

KATE: I can't tell you how excited I am to be here.

I can't wait to try the food.

The fact that I'm in front of you.

Thank you for having me.

BEN: Of course!

ERIN: Thank you for coming all the way to Laurel, Mississippi.

It's very hard to get to Laurel, Mississippi, and we know that.

KATE: It's one of those 'you can't get there from here' kind of spots.

ERIN: We're two hours from an airport, so you worked hard for this burger.

KATE: First of all, what is it about this place that you love?

BEN: It is the ultimate date night spot.

ERIN: Like... BEN: Going back- ERIN: ...early date nights.

BEN: Yeah.

ERIN: And then again, once you have kids.

It feels like you step back in time.

KATE: Yes.

ERIN: And it's simple.

And everybody in the family likes something on the menu.

But our parents- BEN: I was going to say, it's a generational date night spot.

KATE: Your parents went here?

ERIN: Yeah.

This is the oldest restaurant in town.

KATE: Wow!

ERIN: So, our parents went on date nights here, and then, you know, I had a pineapple milkshake when I was about ten years old that my dad got.

And he's like, "Try this."

And I was like, "I've never had anything like that in my life!"

[Kate laughs] You know, it's usually chocolate or strawberry, but pineapple?

Wow.

KATE: How did you all meet?

ERIN: In college.

KATE: Okay.

ERIN: Uh, I was waitli- this is a long story.

How much time do you have?

[Kate laughs] ERIN: My whole life, I had planned to go to college in Florida at um, Flagler College in Saint Augustine.

I got wait-listed my senior year.

KATE: Aw.

ERIN: They accepted like ten people apparently [laughs] per year.

And I was top of the class, I had all the A's, I was in every extracurricular, and I thought, "What am I going to do?"

KATE: I believe that about you.

BEN: Very Type-A.

ERIN: The heartbreak I felt was devastating.

KATE: I feel it.

ERIN: I didn't even apply anywhere else because I'm going to Flagler.

Obviously!

KATE: Yes!

ERIN: But that didn't work out.

And, so, my parents were like, "You can go to the community college twenty minutes away for free.

They'll pay you."

Because I had so many scholarships, I made like $2,000 a semester to go there, and then got there and had the time of my life.

KATE: And that's where you were?

BEN: That's where I was.

KATE: Same year?

BEN: Same year, we started the same year.

ERIN: And like the first week of school, freshman year, I just saw him.

He was just instantly the most popular person on campus.

[Kate laughs] BEN: I think that because I had not gone to high school locally, I stood out because no one knew me, and... KATE: He's being humble.

ERIN: He was the president of every club.

He...he would eat with the person who sat alone in the cafeteria... KATE: Aww.

ERIN: ...in the student union.

And like, I was the kid who ate alone when I was growing up.

KATE: Yes.

ERIN: And so there was just this part of me that... KATE: That seared your soul.

ERIN: I wish I had had ... ERIN and KATE: Him.

ERIN: ...when I was growing up.

KATE: Aww.

ERIN: You know, by the time I was in college, I had friends, everything- I was a normal, functioning person [Kate laughs] but I was so in love with him.

KATE: Yes!

ERIN: He did not know I existed, as far as he was aware.

BEN: I did!

I did.

I noticed Erin the first week of school.

ERIN: Finally, I was the yearbook design editor and we were doing ten feature stories on the most interesting people on campus.

Everyone on the staff said, "Ben Napier needs to be on that list."

And I was like, "I'll head up, I can be there!"

KATE: I got this one!

This one I got!

ERIN: "I can do the interview and be there for the photo shoot."

And they're like, "You just- you design the layouts (laughs) of the book."

And I was like, "But I need to be more involved!"

And uh, we met for real for real the day we started doing that article and six days later decided we would get married.

KATE: (surprised) Ah!

Six days later?

ERIN: Yes.

BEN: Six days later... KATE: So it was meant to be?

BEN: ...I told her I was in love with her and I wanted to marry her one day.

And she said, "I like that."

ERIN: And my parents met him that first week, and were like, "I love him."

[Swampy blues music starts] KATE: Here we go!

BEN: Hey!

KATE: Let's see.

Let's sort these out here.

BEN: Erin.

KATE: At Phillips Drive-In, everyone has their number.

Today, my number is five: the Dressed Cheeseburger.

Erin is going classic with the number one, listed on the menu as just "Burger."

And Ben is digging into the number three: a Dressed Burger.

To wash it all down, we're drinking cherry Sprites with real cherry juice added in, and the PDI signature, pineapple milkshake.

KATE: Let's get the moment of truth here because this... ERIN: Okay, that's Ben's, that's the number three.

KATE: Okay.

BEN: That's not a number three.

KATE: This is a five.

ERIN: You got a five?

KATE: I got a five.

ERIN: Okay.

KATE: Yeah.

BEN: You like a cheeseburger?

KATE: I do.

BEN: Okay!

[Sound of a nearby car exhaust] KATE: That's good.

BEN: It's good.

It's good ingredients.

KATE: Look at that.

ERIN: It's a very simple burger.

KATE: I am curious.

When you guys were graduating college... ERIN and BEN: Mm-hmm.

KATE: ...and you were thinking about your future as a married couple, you'd fallen in love.

What did you want to do with that moment?

And did you already have the seeds of home renovation or was it something totally different?

ERIN: No, absolutely not.

I got a degree in graphic design, and the real dream for me was to, like, move to Birmingham and design magazines.

KATE: Hmm.

ERIN: I had been the yearbook design editor and won so many national awards for that, that that- that was my path.

KATE: Yes.

ERIN: Going to design magazines and books.

And, then, as I got closer to the end of senior year, I was homesick.

KATE: Yeah.

ERIN: Like, every time we would come home to visit, we would go walking in the historic district and downtown.

And the houses, I mean they were, they're dream houses that you might see in a place like New England, but they cost nothing here.

KATE: Right.

ERIN: And I'm like, "What are we...what do we really want?"

Do we, do we want to be able to like, go to my momma's house and eat lasagna twice a week and then, buy our dream house?

BEN: And afford to travel... ERIN: And afford to go to whatever cities we want to go see, or... BEN: Or do we want to live in a city that we can't afford to live in, and we scrape by and we never go anywhere, and we never see our parents?

ERIN: Like, is that what we want?

KATE: Now, this is really important, because this really- this conversation that y'all had way back when really is the basis of everything that we're now here for, right?

ERIN: Yes.

KATE: It was your true love of hometown.

ERIN: Yes.

BEN: Yeah.

And for me, I had never- my parents were Methodist ministers.

I had moved around a lot.

I had never really had a home- my hometown is, if you want to call it that.

ERIN: Where you were born.

BEN: Where I was born is 30 minutes from here, it's where my parents grew up.

And so, I knew of Laurel before I met Erin, but then when we- but it was like, you know, passing it on the interstate or going to a machine shop to get something fixed for a tractor.

It was not, you know, shopping in town or anything like that.

And so, for, kids who grew up the way I did, where you moved from town to town a lot, you either never settle, you constantly move, or you settle really hard and like, put down roots really hard.

And, so, I did that.

I think that I think that all my brothers and I did that.

We went that route.

KATE: But now, you were going to be a magazine editor in Birmingham.

ERIN: Yep.

KATE: What were you going to do in Laurel?

ERIN: Well, I took a job, my uncle owned a marketing firm, and he gave me my first job.

KATE: Okay.

ERIN: And... KATE: And what were you doing at this time?

BEN: I was going to be a history teacher.

ERIN: Yeah, history teacher.

KATE: Okay, so there were a lot of fortuitous moments along your path that you've noticed looking back.

How did you get your own TV show?

ERIN: Accidentally.

KATE: Really?

ERIN: Huge accident.

KATE: Tell me how.

ERIN: This whole thing shouldn't be happening.

This is a (whispering) big accident!

I left uh working for other people to start my own company designing wedding station, letterpress wedding stationery, and it blew up.

It was just a bunch of small boutiques all over the world, and we had all the business we could handle, and it was huge.

It was doing so well that when the house that I had been obsessed with since I was a child, we were out for a walk and saw that the lady on the front porch was a lady we went to church with.

And I was like, "Miss Mary Lynn, you live here?"

And she was like, "Yes baby, I've lived here 15 years.

Do you want to come in?"

And I was like, "Yes, I want to come in!

I loved this house since I..." I drew a picture of this house in seventh grade.

I sat out in front of it and drew it because I was so obsessed with the architecture of it.

Not that I had the words for that in seventh grade, but we walked through it with her and I was like, "Miss Mary Lynn, this house is such a dream.

And if you ever decided you wanted to move, would you let us know?"

And then her daughter, who was a good friend of ours, called us the next day and was like, "Mom wants to live in a condo.

She- she can't keep up the house anymore."

KATE: Ask and you shall receive!

ERIN: Yes!

BEN: "And she wants you and Ben to buy-" ERIN: "She wants you to buy the house.

Will you buy it?"

KATE: And your answer?

ERIN: "Yes, we will buy it!"

KATE: And... ERIN: It was $145,000 for an immaculate Craftsman home that had been cared for immaculately since 1925.

BEN: It needed nothing.

ERIN: Needed nothing.

BEN: But we renovated it to personalize it.

ERIN: The kitchen was the main thing that needed to be updated.

And I wrote a blog every day at that time about the best thing that happened every day.

KATE: Hmm.

ERIN: And that renovation was a part of the process.

KATE: Hmm.

ERIN: Southern Weddings did an interview with me because I am a wedding professional, and it was about our married life, what it was like renovating a house together.

BEN: It was about a- it was about home life for newlyweds.

KATE: Wow.

ERIN: And guess who saw that article?

KATE: Who?

ERIN: HGTV.

Lindsey Whitehorn.

KATE: Wow!

ERIN: She followed me on Instagram.

And somebody that I kind of knew messaged me and said, "Lindsey Whitehorn just followed you on Instagram."

And I was like... KATE: "Who?"

ERIN: "Okay," And he was like, 'She is..." BEN: A producer... ERIN: "...the executive of original programming at HGTV.

You need to pet that relationship."

And I was like, "She wants stationery!"

[Kate laughs] She is gonna- she- Then I looked up and she was the creator of Property Brothers and Fixer Upper.

And I was like [taps] she is going to buy stationery from me."

BEN: "Drew and Jonathan..." ERIN: "Drew and Jonathan..." BEN: "...are going to get our stationery!"

ERIN: That is the only place my mind went.

KATE: Did she call?

ERIN: And then she sent me a DM and said... KATE: This started with a DM on Instagram?

ERIN: Sure did!

KATE: What started out with a DM turned into HGTV's highest-ever rated pilot that turned into a series that turned into 2.2 million viewers tuning in to watch season one of Home Town.

The premise of the show: Erin and Ben welcoming viewers into Laurel, Mississippi and watching them fix up houses and businesses, all in the name of improving the town they love.

KATE: I'm going to try this pineapple shake.

ERIN: You're going to like it.

You haven't had anything exactly like it before.

Maybe you have.

KATE: That is...no you're right.

I haven't.

BEN: It's almost like a candy, because when you get the chunks of pineapple... KATE: It's almost caramelly, right?

BEN: Yeah.

KATE: It's delicious.

KATE: Okay, so the first season, you're in the thick of it.

You're being filmed, you're...you're working on a renovation of a home.

ERIN: Mm-hmm.

KATE: Did you look at each other and say, "How did this happen?

Where are we?"

BEN: So... ERIN: All the time!

KATE: What's your mentality?

BEN: We still do.

KATE: You always hear people talking about imposter syndrome, right?

BEN: Hmm.

KATE: Right?

And and... ERIN: I have it right now.

KATE: (laughing) In this moment, with this burger?

ERIN: Right now.

KATE: So how do you- cause you- at this point you are proven, you are not imposters.

BEN: Nah!

KATE: (laughing) But... ERIN: Are you sure?

KATE: [laughs] But in that moment, how how- what was your mentality and how did you, use that kind of freshness 'cause you were a fresh talent?

ERIN: We were so young.

It was just fun.

It was silly and fun.

BEN: The way that we did it is still the way we make the show now.

We knew, I told them, "Look, I'm not a plumber.

Uh, please don't make me look like a plumber."

And so... ERIN: Ben's like, "I build furniture.

That's all that I do."

BEN: "That's what I'm really good at is designing and building furniture.

Please don't make me wire up a house.

Don't make it look like I know how to do that."

And so, and that's I think part of the charm of our show is that Erin and I... ERIN: We're not experts at all that.

BEN: ...every episode... ERIN: We're just not.

BEN: ...we're learning something new.

KATE: I think it's super-inspirational and aspirational because the average person isn't an expert in everything.

BEN: Uh-uh.

KATE: And when they're renovating a home, they're relying on experts.

So... you two are mirroring what anyone who's renovating a home is going through.

So, in a way, it makes it even more accessible.

BEN: Yeah.

KATE: Right?

BEN: Absolutely.

ERIN: I hope so.

BEN: That's the goal of it.

KATE: And how many homes have or businesses have been renovated?

BEN: Gosh.

ERIN: 150?

BEN: We've done- we've done over 150 houses.

ERIN: In Laurel.

It starts something where we do a house, and then the house next door, they plant some new flowers in the yard, paint the front door.

That might be all they can afford to do right now, but, like, it is inspiring to the people around to say, "Well, what can we do to... KATE: It's contagious, isn't it?

ERIN: ...Fix it up a little bit?"

KATE: Home Town is now in its 10th season on HGTV and has led to the spin-off docuseries, Home Town Takeover, where Erin and Ben go on the road with the same heartfelt mission: turning around small towns.

They've done three seasons: in Alabama, Colorado, and Florida.

KATE: Your vision for what's next has gotten bigger and bigger with the store and with the ideas.

And, how has that process been for you?

Has it been... ERIN: Natural.

KATE: Has it been natural?

ERIN: A natural evolution.

Yeah.

It's like we- we're- we should be psychiatrists, that's really what we do.

As we dig into thinking about why do we- if we really really care about our town being healthy and thriving economically, then when we're... BEN: If we care about renovating hometowns... ERIN: Yeah.

BEN: ..then we have to support those towns.

KATE: Hmm.

BEN: And so the only way you can do that is through American manufacturing.

And so we look for, from the beginning and... ERIN: Licensing offers happened immediately when the show was a success.

BEN: Yeah.

ERIN: They were like, "We're going to make you so much money, and it's going to be made overseas."

And we were like, "I can't."

BEN: We... KATE: When did it occur to you that American-made was so important to you, and it was some- a flag that you were going to hold?

BEN: It was, so in high school, we lived in North Carolina, and we would go to these towns, and the entire town would be built around one factory.

Like, everything supported that one factory.

And at the time-this was the late 90s, early 2000s, there was so much offshoring happening.

So many of these companies were like, we were hearing in the news every day uh, "So-and-so factory shut down.

550 people without jobs."

It was like, in a town of, you know 1,500, you're talking devastation.

KATE: Right.

ERIN: The town is gone.

BEN: And even as... BEN: ...even as a teenager, I recognized that like, "Oh my gosh!

This is... these numbers are really bad."

And so, but I was fascinated with those towns.

It was- it was equally terrifying and interesting at the same time.

And so when we think about American-made, that's who we see.

We don't see, you know, politicians waving flags, or anything like that.

We see the people that we grew up with, the people we go to church with.

ERIN: And the only reason Laurel was in a healthy-enough state that it could be revitalized to where it is now is because manufacturing never left.

KATE: Hmm.

BEN: Mm-hmm.

ERIN: And that's the truth, that's the secret sauce...is that we know, because Laurel is still a huge manufacturing hub, a lot of industry is here, that's why it's- it was still alive.

Not, maybe not like, great shopping, not great restaurants, people had forgotten it in those ways but the people were here still.

And so you have to have that, that has to be your baseline if you're going to revitalize a town.

KATE: With the success of their shows came tempting business opportunities and endorsements in every direction.

But the Napiers have stuck to their values and roots, investing in the town that made them.

The couple own and operate three brick-and-mortar businesses in Laurel, and believe deeply in American-made products.

BEN: It was just the next step, and we need to put our money where our mouth is.

Like we're talking a lot about American-made, but those people are shouldering the responsibility.

And, and so by building the factory, it's now saying, "Okay, we're now building jobs that will provide for a family."

Like if you're, if you think about it, the way we look at everything-all of our endorsement deals, everything that we get because of the show, we think about who is- who is getting food put on their table because of this job.

We have 75 employees in our factory who are putting their kids through college, who are putting food on the table, who, you know, don't have to wonder about, "Where is my paycheck coming from?"

KATE: So, with all of the amazing things that you've built, what's on the list that hasn't been done?

What is your vision?

Is there something that you haven't created that you want to?

ERIN: Can I tell you my secret?

KATE: Please!

ERIN: Every plan I ever made didn't work out.

I don't make plans anymore.

(Kate laughs) BEN: Yup!

ERIN: I don't believe in them.

BEN: Magazine editor.

ERIN: That's a true story.

BEN: History teacher, politician, all of that.

ERIN: My plans always, fall apart.

KATE: Hmm.

ERIN: I think God has a plan for our life, and that's going to happen regardless of what we do.

We just have to listen and follow the cues.

KATE: What has it meant personally to you to have this kind of success with Home Town?

Like, if you had to like boil it down, because we've been talking a lot about all the amazing things that have happened, all the green lights.

But like personally, what this journey has meant to you?

BEN: Hmm.

ERIN: It feels like a regular job, and we enjoy it.

BEN: Yeah.

ERIN: Does that?

It feels like it's a small thing, because if it's us and it's here, it can't be a big thing.

Do you know what I mean?

It's like, if you see us on HGTV, I'm at the doctor's office and there we are on HGTV in the waiting room, it makes... BEN: It feels like... ERIN: ...HGTV feel like a small thing, right?

BEN: Yes!

ERIN: Like being on WDAM, like the local news, talking about "Day in the Parks coming up this weekend!

And we hope everyone comes out!"

KATE: But it is a big... ERIN: It's so weird.

KATE: It is a big thing, because there aren't many people on TV championing small town America... ERIN: Yeah.

KATE: ...and local revitalization like you are doing.

ERIN: Thank you.

We're just messing around!

[Kate laughs] That's what it feels like.

KATE: After an amazing slice-of-Americana meal with the Napiers, it is clear they are doing what they love, and they are doing it their way.

After lunch, we head to a spot near and dear to their heart.

Erin's dad, Phil Raspberry, was a highly respected physical therapist for 44 years in town.

This meant Erin spent a lot of time in the local hospital.

So, in 2025, the Napiers decided on the maternity ward at South Central Regional Medical Center for their next renovation.

KATE: You two have been working some of your magic here.

ERIN: We have.

BEN: This is probably a weird one.

ERIN: This is weird, I'm sorry.

[Kate laughs] This is a recent project, but this hospital is extremely special, to us.

BEN: This is Erin's other hometown.

ERIN: It is.

A hospital is like a microcosm of whatever town you live in when it's a small town and a local hospital.

BEN: This is what all of the rooms looked like.

You know, this...this wallpaper, we had some jewel tones.

It was very, 1990s.

KATE: Yes.

ERIN: We've just done model rooms... KATE: Okay.

ERIN: ...so that as the hospital raises the funds, they'll do another and another... KATE: I love that.

ERIN: ...and another, and they'll all match.

KATE: One at a time, right?

BEN: One at a time.

KATE: Slowly updating.

KATE: That's great!

BEN: We're helping the hospital spearhead a, uh financial campaign to raise money.

KATE: Ok.

Beautiful!

ERIN: This is the new room.

KATE: Oh, it's so pretty!

ERIN: Yes.

And this is where they really wanted us to emphasize the five-star hotel experience.

And for me, that means this ambient lighting... KATE: Yes.

ERIN: ...around the room.

This feels like grasscloth... KATE: Yes.

ERIN: ...but it's like a vinyl that can be bleached and cleaned and scrubbed.

BEN: We have blackout curtains, we have new blinds.

It had like, just your like, the cheapest department store blinds and they were all tore up because kids grab them.

So these are a little more durable.

They're on a switch.

We have blackout curtains.

ERIN: And this is uh, where I, I've had two surgeries before I had kids, and this is where I slept.

KATE: Wow.

ERIN: The only two surgeries I'd ever had in my life.

And then I had two babies, and this is our room.

This is where we had our first date [Kate gasps] as parents, sitting right there.

KATE: Right here!

Can you imagine like, from your- your beginnings of the show... ERIN: No!

KATE: ...to now, it's not just homes that you're renovating.

It's little nooks and crannies that are so important.

Right?

ERIN: It's so crazy.

KATE: Yeah, this renovation is more than homes, isn't it?

[Baby cries] ERIN: Yeah.

(in a high-pitched voice) There's a brand new baby!

[Kate and Erin laugh] KATE: That sound, right?

ERIN: A huge honor.

KATE: It is so...yeah, a huge honor!

ERIN: Yeah.

KATE: Well, fantastic!

Thank y'all so much.

This has been... BEN: Of course!

ERIN: Thanks for... KATE: ...a wonderful experience to come to Laurel.

BEN: Thank you for doing this.

KATE: Yeah, this is awesome.

Thank you, thank you!

ERIN: Thanks for coming to town.

KATE: Absolutely.

KATE: What an afternoon with Erin and Ben Napier.

There's a reason they're so popular and have one of the highest rated shows on HGTV.

They are small town folks with big time talent, and a heart to make every corner of their hometown a little brighter and shinier.

In this country, when things get old and dusty, we tend to tear them down and start over.

But there is something very special in working with what you have, restoring the old, and pouring love into making it anew thanks to Erin and Ben, who are showing us how it's done.

♪♪ KATE: If you would like to know more about the guests, the restaurants, and the inspiring stories of success, please visit ToDineForTV.com or follow us on Facebook and Instagram @ToDineForTV.

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